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Author: DougR
Date: 2011-03-01 15:12
Dave, come on! You do a waltz clog for the first three beats of the measure, then hop in place for the last 2. You can yell something to punctuate the last 2 hops, like "Oyk Oyk!" and you'll be the hit of the country club dance.
Some party animal YOU are!
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2011-03-01 15:30
Yeah, OK Doug, now let's see you do the Electric Slide in 5/4! And please don't send me the orthopedic surgeon's bill.........
True story: Back when I was young and could barely play the sax, I was in a top-40 band, playing a small military club one evening, with all of the "guests" having departed but one couple. They were married to each other, quite drunk, and fighting loudly but wouldn't get off the dance floor. We really wanted to pack up our gear and go home, but couldn't until the last audience members were gone. So, in order to get these people out of there, we came up with the brilliant idea of playing Brubeck's "Take 5", which surely they'd be unable to dance to and which would frustrate them to the point of going home!
Didn't work. They kept on dancing in 4/4 time to the 5/4 music. We had to keep playing for another half hour. ![[mad]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie9.gif)
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2011-03-01 20:25
This guy is right on the money with this video. Everything is basically in 5/4 time even if you count it in 4/4 it still doesn't matter. He has mastered confusing the issue.
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2011-03-01 20:35
In his defense I guess he,s saying that any 5/4 riff can be superimposed on any meter starting on any beat but he doesn't enough suggest you can feel 5/4 in two beats 3+2 or 2+3. I think he needs another follow up video to clarify his clarification.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2011-03-01 20:43
Isn't it just a 3-quarter-triplet followed by two straight quarters, played with a somewhat odd timing? ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
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Ben
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2011-03-01 23:33
Just think of a 3/4 and 2/4 measure combined or sometimes, depending on the pulse, 2/4 and 3/4. It's not that difficult. 12-345 or 123-45, but no space of course. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-03-02 12:23
>> So, in order to get these people out of there, we came up with the brilliant idea of playing Brubeck's "Take 5", which surely they'd be unable to dance to and which would frustrate them to the point of going home!>>
My husband used to work for the EPA in a building that opened onto the entrance to the Federal Triangle Metro (subway) stop, in Washington, D.C.. At the top of the escalator, a wino-cum-sax-player with skills that -- let's be charitable and call them rudimentary -- used to play part of one piece, over and over and over: "Take 5," only he played it, sort of, in 4/4. One time I chanced to meet a colleague of my husband's on the escalator and, as we rode up listening to this drunkard performing his musical massacre, I asked her, "Doesn't that guy just drive you nuts?"
She said, "Oh, I like that song." Couldn't hear anything wrong with it. And she was sober. O-kay....
I started writing some of my music in 5/4 and 7/8 after seeing Bulgarian dna Macedonian folk dancers perform splendidly in these time signatures, by the way. You can indeed dance to "off" rhythms. Head and arms do threes and feet do twos.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: Loliver
Date: 2011-03-02 13:29
Does anyone know the infamous piece that alternates between 11/8 and 13/8? I can't remember the name of the composer or the piece, but I can remember the guy wrote it in those time signatures to prevent people from being able to dance to it...
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2011-03-02 14:20
As Peter Schickele says, playing PDQ Bach's dance music leads us to believe that one of his legs was shorter than the other.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2011-03-02 14:35
Th.ere is a bit of 15/16 time in Phantom of the Opera. If you're just off a bit you have that wacky meter.......4/4
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2011-03-02 17:44
Don Ellis' avant-garde big band used to do a piece called "Bulgarian Bulge", written I think by their piano player at the time, Milcho Leviev. It's in at least one weird time signature (Wikipedia says it's in 33/16, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are multiple different time signatures). Ellis had some of the best and most innovative jazz musicians in the world in his band at that time (1970s), but even they struggled with the piece, as evident on some of the recordings I have of it.
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Author: DougR
Date: 2011-03-02 18:45
well, here's one of MY favorites: Maria Schneider's band doing "Hang Gliding", basically a bar of 6/4 followed by a bar of 5/4. Beautiful composition, but you really need to have ALL your "counting" chairs at the table, particularly to solo in it, I would think.
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Author: DougR
Date: 2011-03-02 18:47
well, here's one of MY favorites: Maria Schneider's band doing "Hang Gliding", basically a bar of 6/4 followed by a bar of 5/4. Beautiful composition, but you really need to have ALL your "counting" chairs at the table, particularly to solo in it, I would think. These folks make it sound effortless, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0XoNjNk6U
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