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 Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: thechosenone 
Date:   2005-09-24 03:31

In the final mvt of the Harbison quintet, there is a tremolo marked from clarion B (1st legder line above staff) to altissimo D#. This is a very awkward tremolo, and the only solution I can think of is to play the D# fingered like a thumb C + A key. But this is still very harsh on the fingers. Any suggestions?

Playing it in A is not an option, because another tremolo at the beginning of the next bar is from B natural to D natural



Post Edited (2005-09-24 03:43)

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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2005-09-24 04:50

You are doing it correctly.

This tremolo is awkward, but with a little practice it can be made smooth.

Play the B5 and roll the first finger up to the throat A key to get the D#6.

If your first finger encounters too much friction by rolling back and forth to the throat A key, you might rub your finger on the side of your nose to get some additional skin oil. This will make the finger slide a bit easier....GBK

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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2005-09-24 06:18

I don't know the piece, but I have an idea that might work. If you play the B using your 3rd finger and then use your 2nd finger for the A key, that should make the tremolo easier. But of course, if you have to play other notes immediately before or after the tremolo then this might not be possible.

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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: vin 
Date:   2005-09-24 07:34

There is a similar rapid passage in the second solo from Miraculous Mandarin. All I can suggest is practice, nose grease (as GBK suggests) and stay loose.

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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: redwine 
Date:   2005-09-24 13:04

Hello,

I don't know this piece, but an old trick Steve Girko taught me is if there is nothing that stops you, you can actually use your other hand to do a trill or tremolo. I'd have to mess around with fingerings, but you could play the b regularly, rest the clarinet between your knees, and remove your right hand and use it to open the a key, or whatever you need to to make the d# come out correctly.

Ben Redwine, DMA
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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-09-24 17:02

Nice move Ben. I saw a sax player use such a move and I even suggested it here sometime ago and was pooh-poohed. I guess there are some who don't approve of ingenuity even if it works.

Bob Draznik

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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: David Peacham 
Date:   2005-09-24 17:32

I use the "wrong hand" method to play the clarion G to Ab trill in the first of the Finzi Bagatelles. Of course, that trill isn't really hard to play the conventional way, but in this context it needs to be fast and accurate and it's a lot easier to use the first finger of the right hand. If I feel guilty about it, I remind myself that some clarinets have a right-hand alternative for the Ab, so what is wrong with cheating to make up for not having one?

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 Re: Tremolo - Harbison Quintet
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2005-09-24 17:35

BobD wrote:

> Nice move Ben. I saw a sax player use such a move and I even
> suggested it here sometime ago and was pooh-poohed.

Hmmm ... where was that? I found http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=107340&t=107340
but it was hardly "pooh-poohed" ...

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