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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2004-12-13 07:21
Okay boarders, help me out.
I have an old double case for my A and Bb that I thought was made of foam padding and velvet on both top and bottom inside sections but I just found out that only the top has foam padding. The botton section has "egg carton cardboard" for my prized babies to lie in and absolutely no insulation around them! No wonder they are constantly cold every time I play them.
The case is so old and odd shaped that I don't think I want to buy the outer insulating case to go around it. I haven't found one yet that's wide enough to fit it anyway. It would have to be a special order from Altieri or Olathe bag or someone like that.
My question to you is this. Do you know of any of the double cases out there that are nicely foam padded and will also hold my 4 barrels and at least 2 mouthpieces. I would like it to have enough insulation that I don't need a seperate outer bag but with all the ice we get in the Midwest I need to make sure it's super insulated so I dont get cracked up babies. I may still need an additional outer zip bag to keep it completely warm and the two would need to be compatable.
I saw one by Buffet that I liked but I couldn't tell how many barrels it held and I saw a description of the Yamaha but there was no picture on WWBW so I didn't want to buy something I can't see. There are some cheaper brands too that sound okay but again, no internal pic so no opinion on it. Frustration to say the least. They aren't cheap and i'm trying to protect about $6,000 worth of clarinets so I want the case to be hardy. Also, my dear friend who plays next to me in the symphony has ankylosing spondilitis ( a form of arthritis) and needs to have her clarinets and gear on wheels. Anyone know of a case on wheels kind of like the carry on bags you see in airports??? Help!!!
Thanks everyone.
Rebecca
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Author: LeWhite
Date: 2004-12-13 11:37
A BAM case is exactly what you're after. Do a Google serarch, you'll find all the info you want.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-12-13 12:02
AS Emeril would say.......BAM
Best price I saw was online auction (new item) for 209 USD.
email me and I will give u particulars about seller's moniker etc
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-12-13 12:37
Pebbles Flintstone would probably call for her trusty BAM BAM to help you out.
(Am I going too over the top here?)
Retired, playing more sax than clarinet, but still playing clarinet and still loving it!
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2004-12-13 13:24
There's an online seller (eBay) who sells BAM cases at a good price. cpaok is his id. I had one of these double cases and they are fantastic. Lightweight, super padding and room for all my stuff. Absolutely BAM.
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2004-12-13 14:34
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,!!! It seems to be unanimous. I had seen the BAM case on the wwbw site but they didn't have any info or pictures on the inside of the case. I'm just fussy like that and want to know what it looks like. I went on the BAM site and saw an inside pic. Great case. I will use your advice to seek one out. Once again the Bboarders come through!
Again, thanks!
Rebecca
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-12-13 14:40
Brenda....that is the "moniker" I was suggesting....I just didnt wanna be public about it. Does nice deal on the Forte's too.
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Author: William
Date: 2004-12-13 14:48
When I last saw Larry Combs at a clinic sponsered by IMS, he was carrying his clarinets (two sets, Buffet and Wurlitzer) in two rather larger suitcases which I though had wheels. It was a Sat. morning and he was on his way to some downtown Chicago gigs and, therefore, had a lot of "stuff" to carry. Perhaps someone "out there" who sees Larry regularily could give us all a report or ask him to post directly regarding this question. Bams are great cases and can be carried as a backpack, but they still do not come with wheels.
Psst....hey Bam......great idea--WHEELS.. (think about it)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-12-13 14:56
Brenda Siewert wrote:
> But, let's not break rules.
The rules are for "self-promotion". If you find a good eBay dealer | retail dealer | someone with great service then letting other people know is just fine.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-12-13 15:30
Message from the dealer...and others have vouched for him about other items: On ebay he is cpaok.
<<<Great & thanks - we have them in stock. Please feel free to give them our address. Thanks again.
sincerely,
mark weinstein
WEINSTEIN WOODWINDS
6422-B North Santa Fe Avenue
Oklahoma City, OK 73116
(405) 848-4441 (voice)
cpaok@icon.net >>>>>
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Author: Brent
Date: 2004-12-13 16:39
Just bear in mind that no amount of insulation will actually keep your clarinets warm. All insulation will do is slow down the rate at which they get cold. That in itself is a good thing, because they will chill less unevenly, making the likelihood of cracks lesser. But, of course, they will warm up more slowly too, so that a if it was in the car for several hours in the winter, and brought inside for a short period, the clarinets will still be quite cold.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-12-13 17:19
Thanks for mentioning that point, Brent. I was just about to.
Retired, playing more sax than clarinet, but still playing clarinet and still loving it!
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Author: ereveal
Date: 2004-12-14 19:43
Mark Bonnna in Brazil makes a terrific one. He makes them for either Rossis (one piece) or regular two piece bodies. It is a beautifully made case; light weight or leather; many color selections and reasonable prices (about $200 for the fabric double). His e-mail is kbonna@macbbs.com.br . It takes 4-6 weeks for an order. The interior holds four barrels and comes with two very nice leather mouthpiece cases and extra room for other accessories. It has three outside pockets and you can get back pack straps. I am very, very happy with it.
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2004-12-15 04:18
Brent and sfalexi.............I would never leave my babies out in a cold vehicle for any amount of time other than just to travel to and from orchestra rehearsal or a concert/gig of some sort but you make an excellent point. My father and husband were both in the insulation business for years so I understand the very basic principles of heat and cold exchange and how to keep things as warm as possible. I just did a very foolish thing in that when I got my A as a used instrument I didn't check the case out to make sure it was insulated well enough.
I have ordered the BAM and can't wait to get it as it is extremely cold here in KC right now. I'm so cold!! Our trio plays Friday so I hope I have my new case by then. Also, whenever anyone gets that double one on wheels made I'm sure you won't be able to keep up on orders  Thanks for all the positive input.
Rebecca
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2004-12-15 14:34
I put a BAM double case on my Christmas wish list a few months ago. Hope Santa was paying attention. ;-)
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2004-12-16 06:46
Hey everyone,
I received my BAMM Trekking case today and it is just awesome. Thanks so much for all the great advice. That's exactly why I came to you all. You do know your clarinet stuff!
Now, about that case on wheels..........I have a father who loves to invent useful things. He has a patent attorney and has invented machines for his business before. He is retired now so maybe he could work on this case for all of us who need a rolling one. I think I'll put him right on this. What would be some of the other perks you would want to have in your clarinet case? Let me know and we'll see what he comes up with.
Again, thank you for taking your time to advise me.
Rebecca
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2004-12-17 16:58
When your dad started researching the "prior art" (i.e., doing the "patent search"), he would find that hand held musical instrument cases with wheels on same have been around for at least twenty years or so. (My Yamaha baritone case has same, with the wheels even designed to be removable, and the style dates back at least to 1980.)
Looking at it from the point of one who has done patent searches and applications in the past, I would imagine that, if the concept had not already been patented (and Yamaha's pretty careful in this regard), then the examiners would consider that the concept of "wheels on a suitcase-like object" are so "obvious to one skilled in the arts" as to be already in the "prior art". One could offer the baggage concourse of any airline terminal as sufficient proof to bolster these assertions.
A bit of the PTO legalese there, but you get my drift. Like so many others, it's a good idea. Unfortunately, someone else thought of it first...
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2004-12-17 21:57
I talked to Dad today and he told me the same thing. I knew that the idea would have been patented but what I don't know is why there aren't any out there to be purchased if there are so many musicians that seem to need them and......... if they've been around for so long ..............where are they? I can't even find a case on wheels as an option anywhere. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I'm very pleased with my new BAM but I know some musicians travel and some just have painful joints and can't lift them. If I'm not mistaken, some of the bigger string cases are on wheels but I haven't seen any clarinet cases on wheels. Someone needs to just do it. Dad seems to think something like the carry-on luggage we see in the airports would work for clarinets but they would either have to be custom made jobs or produced by a company already making instrument cases. Oh well, we will just have to wait for enough of a demand I guess.
Rebecca
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