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 overlapping
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2007-07-31 14:03

I have been told that reeds that overlap (or not) would eventually overlap more and more as time goes by. Is this true?

Howard

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 Re: overlapping
Author: cjwright 
Date:   2007-07-31 15:04

Definitely not. Unless your gouge is not correct and encourages them to do so.

The overlap should make a "click" sound when you overlap, which shows you that the sides are "grabbing" against each other. If it doesn't, then there's something wrong with your gouge.

There are also some techniques you can do in your scrape to encourage the sides to grab against each other and keep the overlap tight.

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 Re: overlapping
Author: Craig Matovich 
Date:   2007-07-31 19:56

The click happens after the tip is opened when you press the overlap into place by sliding the blades in opposite directions across the sides. Weber calls this settng the overlap.

I agree with CJ, the overlap should hold its place once you put it there.

Once the reed is playable, you can nudge it more overlapped (a very slight amount) to raise the pitch a bit. That will also take away a little responsiveness and make the tone a little thinner.

Conversely, back off the overlap a little (still not to undo it...) and the pitch tends to lower a little, the reed becomes more responsive and the tone a bit fuller.

These both are very slight adjustments. Pitch movement is only 1-3 cents.
Playing with the overlap for slight adjustments can be useful throught a reed's life.

And sometimes this is preferrable to cutting the tip, especially on a reed a day or two old and still breaking in. Aside from the initial setting of the overlap I do by pushing at the heart area, the nudges I mention happen down close to the thread.

Do be careful that your reed thread is tied very tightly. If that slips or loosens, the overlap may increase too much.



Post Edited (2007-07-31 20:15)

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 Re: overlapping
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2007-08-01 07:05

Hello everyone!

Unfortunately, i play on European short scrape reeds and the act of over lapping intentionally is a definite no no. But it was interesting to read how one creates the overlap!

CJ, what mistake does one make on the gouge that encourages overlapping?

Thanks for all the help guys.

Howard

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 Re: overlapping
Author: cjwright 
Date:   2007-08-01 08:03

Quote:

CJ, what mistake does one make on the gouge that encourages overlapping?


Sorry. Can you clarify your question? mistake?

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 Re: overlapping
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2007-08-01 15:09

'Mistake', as in what can one adjust in the gouging process that encourages overlapping? It's a bad thing for me, and a good thing for American scrape players, thus i put " ". Sorry for my poor English.

Howard

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