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Author: clarinetfan97
Date: 2012-07-01 07:51
I wanted to get a r-13 in the future, but I hear that Rossi clarinets are better but more pricy. What do you guys think?
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Author: Ed
Date: 2012-07-01 14:11
I wouldnt say better. It all depends on what you like. I tried a couple out at a fest a few years back and they were very nice instruments.
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Author: SamuelChan
Date: 2012-07-01 15:10
I would be better if you try them out, then you may have a rough illustration of both clarinets then you can make a better choice.
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2012-07-01 18:08
Try,many, before buy, of all models you consider.
richard smith
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Author: Clarimeister
Date: 2012-07-01 19:31
I've tried out Rossis at ClarinetFest last year and thought they were gorgeous sounding instruments. You have to try them to make sure you like them though.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2012-07-01 19:56
Clarinets vary so much between samples of the same make and model that auditioning them is a critical part of shopping for a new one.
one unexpected thing about the Rossi: Made with a one-piece body, Rossi pokes the G#/C# tone hole through the top of the bore (like a horn with an articulated G# set-up). The expectation is that water won't accumulate in the G#/C# tone hole. NOT, bring your blotter along to the testing session.
Bob Phillips
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Author: jack
Date: 2012-07-02 06:51
An R13 is an R13. "Good" ones are very good. Some are not. As you know, Buffet makes several other models. They are pretty much all very nice instruments, basically as good as Selmer, Yamaha and Leblanc (Leblanc still in business?). Yes, you need to try them. Rossi makes a marvelous instrument in various bores and woods. Production, according to Rossi is around 60 or so a year or less. Although that seems awfully low. My very personal opinion after trying most brands and models is that the American bore Rossi in grenadilla sings like no other. The ability to merge your spirit to the Rossi clarinet's ability to just soar with a wonderful projection and density of sound is like no other. I just love the Lomax Andy Firth mouthpiece with it.
Post Edited (2012-07-02 06:55)
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Author: Clarinetero
Date: 2012-07-02 06:57
They're VERY VERY different.
For me, the main difference is in the sound. The R-13 sounds more brilliant opposed to the Rossi which sounded darker, more refined I think. Of course that is my personal experience, you need to try as many as you can before you buy.
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Author: SteveG_CT
Date: 2012-07-02 07:21
jack wrote:
> Production, according to Rossi is
> around 60 or so a year or less.
I would think that would make it very difficult to play test more than perhaps just a couple of them. Can anyone who as actually bought one or auditioned a Rossi clarinet speak as to how many the dealer had on hand?
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2012-07-02 12:45
I switched from Buffet's to Rossi two years ago. For me the Rossi is a significantly better fit than the three R13's that I had owned previously.
That being said, the pitch adjustments that you need to make while playing are there -- they're just different than Buffet's.
Not that it's a reason to spend big money on clarinet, but I can count the number of times that I've had water in the holes...and I think most of them were caused by switching the way I swab the clarinet because of that "which-way-do-you-swab" thread from a couple months past!
The big difficulty with Rossi's instruments is that there is almost no ability to try-before-you-buy. Unless you go to Nebraska this year for the ClarFest and try his horns out -- and even then he'll only have a couple of horns there and very few available for sale.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2012-07-02 12:47
Steve --
I contacted Luis about the selection of A clarinets that he would have on hand in Nebraska. He said he would have one for immediate sale.
I would expect there would be more Bb's, but not many more.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2012-07-02 12:52
Buffets and Rossis are two different animals. They sound differently (how so depending on which Rossi bore you're playing), they feel differently, they tune differently, and they respond differently.
I don't know of any "dealer" in the U.S. other than Jonathan Cohler, who may or may not have multiple instruments on hand to try. Best thing to do is to find someone who owns Rossis, and ask them if they would let you try them, then decide which model you want and order one. (Yes, it may take up to a year to get the instrument, which most people don't have the patience for.)
If you're going to to C'fest, Luis will surely have several of his models there.
I own four Rossi's (Bb and A French bores, a C, and an large bore Bb), and have never felt uncomfortable about just ordering one without comparing multiple instruments of the same model. (I switched from Buffets to Rossis about six years ago.)
Feel free to write to me "offline" if you have any further questions.
B.
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