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Author: Ashley91489
Date: 2008-11-26 03:12
My current setup is:
Buffet R-13
Vandoren M13
Vandoren V12 Reeds (3.5)
Rovner ED Lig.
The problem is, my Rovner ligature is rubbing off where the leather touches my chin, therefore when I put my clarinet down, there is a black spot on my chin. I tried painting over the area w/ clear n/p and that worked for a day or two but now it's rubbing off again.
It functions well and I'm not against buying a new one just like it but I was wondering if there is something better out there. I'm not sure if this is a problem w/ ED ligs but I've not had this problem at all w/ my Rovner Light lig. which I've had for years.
Post Edited (2008-11-26 03:14)
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Author: bcl1dso
Date: 2008-11-26 03:41
I would say that if you want to keep the same ligature, just don't hold the clarinet so low. It is not a big deal to move it out alittle. However, if you want to get a new ligature, either get a inverted Bonade, or a regular Bonade (like Yehuda's students).
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2008-11-26 04:27
I've been using the same ED for over 10 years and haven't had that problem... but then I've never (to my knowledge) played with my mouth touching the ligature. I think bclldso has the right idea... that, or try positioning the ligature lower on the mouthpiece.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: jeeves
Date: 2008-11-26 11:47
How does one manage to touch the lig w/ their chin while playing?
Jeeves
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2008-11-26 12:23
Yeah, the ligature shouldn't touch your chin.
I place the ligature at least a hair below the first line on the mouthpiece.
Is this the old Rovner ED or the Rovner ED 2?
I personally hated the Rovner ED 2 (after insisting on trying it because I thought it would be amazing) because even more "muffling" and slow in response than the Rovner Dark.
However, if you like your ligature, I would keep using it. Using your Rovner Light is also fine.
Another suggestion I have is using string. I definitely think string is the best ligature for me so far, and it's a good idea to compare your ligatures to string (since it costs almost nothing).
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Author: Curinfinwe
Date: 2008-11-26 13:33
I would have to agree with the string idea. I used a flat, but thin shoelace for almost two years, until it just became too inconvenient, but everyone should try it at some point!
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Author: Ed
Date: 2008-11-26 14:23
There are many great ligatures on the market, well worth trying. If you like the Rovner type, BG and others make that style as well. Maybe a new one will not have that issue.
It is possible to have the ligature touch if you are keeping the clarinet at a very close angle. Those ligatures are a bit bulky, which can add to the issue.
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Author: leonardA
Date: 2008-11-27 15:43
I have the bonade inverted and it works very well for me. I also like the Luyben plastic, which you can get at luybenmusic.com.
Leonard
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-11-27 16:01
I've been using a Rovner for many years now. I have changed the model over the years, I'm now using his newest Metal model, see his web sight. I used the Ed D model for about ten years. I've never heard of the problem of the ligature pressing against one's chin. You are clearly holding the clarinet to close to your chin. As far as all of Yehuda's students using a Bonade, as much as he's a great teacher I don't think any teacher should "require" all their students to use the same of anything. Maybe he doesn't require it, I hope not. There are so many fine quality ligatures on the market, and each one give the individual something positive or negative depending on so many other factors that one should try a few types and choose one that give them the most of what they'er looking for in tone quality, response and feel. What is best for one person is not necessarily best for another, even if their teacher uses it. Of course you should at least try you're teachers recommendation hoping that they will keep and opened mind when judging the final result. Keep an opened mine. ESP www.peabody.jhu.edu/457 Listen to a little Mozart, live performance.
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2008-11-28 05:55
lubyens are terrible in tone quality but have an immediate response. it's kind of like putting a 2 reed on your favorite mouthpiece. (not the best combination) it's great for beginning students to build confidence in their sound, but not as an aspiring musician.
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: Ed
Date: 2008-11-28 12:05
C2thew says
"lubyens are terrible in tone quality but have an immediate response......etc"
Keep in mind that is one person's opinion. I have known many professional players who use the Luyben and sound great using it.
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2008-11-28 12:25
And I disagree with C2thew.
Our first chair player uses a Luyben lig, and she sounds wonderful!
If I'm not using string, I'm probably using the Luyben--I don't think it's bad in tone quality. It does some a little brighter than a Rovner Dark though.
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2008-11-28 21:01
Only in this past year have I switched from a Luyben to a BG. My Luyben has served me VERY well for over three decades! cxgreen48 wrote:
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Author: malanr
Date: 2008-11-28 21:09
Since we are talking about ligatures...
I use a BG, a Rovner Light (Big window) and I have a single screw selmer paris metal lig. I used to have a Rovner Dark (the one with the 2 holes) but i don't know where it went.
The question I have is how do you properly use the metal lig? I always used the old two screw type withthe screws on the top of the mouthpiece. I have seen other pros use them with the screws on the reed.
any opinions?
Just another muscian
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2008-11-28 21:39
Claire,
Can I ask which BG ligature you switched to? Does it seem to be better than the Luyben... and why?
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