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Author: samohan245
Date: 2007-06-20 22:18
im deciding to put away beloved current clarinet (purefure silver throat deluxe)
and get a new clarinet as you know im the kid who plays with the high schoolers.
lets get down to the point.
what clarinet should i turn to next?
im intermediate at a high school level ( im currently in 8th grade)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-06-20 22:38
Perhaps you could explain your reason(s) for retiring the Pruefer, your money situation etc otherwise we could go on forever. No, I didn't know you played with the high schoolers......I did too. R13 is first choice regardless.
Bob Draznik
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-06-20 23:06
What's this "R13" mantra?
Is it just the safe "nobody got fired for choosing..." choice or aren't there really any other models around? Nah, can't be, can it?
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Ben
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Author: Mags1957
Date: 2007-06-20 23:17
Get a Lyrique, and put the extra $1500 - $2000 that you save (that's how much less a Lyrique is than an R13) toward lessons. Do a search on Lyrique here and read the reviews.
Post Edited (2007-06-20 23:18)
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Author: samohan245
Date: 2007-06-21 00:54
my current clarinet is getting really worn down and has any tuning problems.
i have gone through to many mouthpieces and barrels (that fit) thats also a problem.
any price range.
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Author: Neil
Date: 2007-06-21 02:01
"What's this "R13" mantra?"
The Black Hand is all around; nobody wants to wind up in the trunk of a car in Canarsie, or in a Staten Island landfill alongside Jimmy Hoffa.
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Author: SVClarinet09
Date: 2007-06-21 02:20
Try clarinets out. R13s are good. Leblanc Rapsodies/Esprits/Sonatas are good. I owned an Esprit. Yamaha CS models are good. And the Selmer Paris models are good too. Try out anything, with the same mouthpiece and reed and see what works best for you.
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Author: b.roke
Date: 2007-06-21 03:07
the most fun you can have is to go the online auction site route. use comments from here as a guide and spend some time looking - following the advice that is on here too - and buy.
the anticipation is tremendous. if the result is disappointment, then put it back on **** and you may even make some money if you have bought well or lose some if you didn't.
you can repeat this process many times. for me it has been fun, fun, fun all the way. it's a great way to 'try out' an instrument. after a month or two you can make a good decision. and you can buy more than one!!!
if you can repad and repair corks you can even make a dollar or 2.
BEWARE - it is highly addictive and time consuming.
steadfastness stands higher than any success
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Author: Jacqueline
Date: 2007-06-21 07:55
I would recommend an R13 as well, you can't go wrong with a good R13. But my strongest recommendation is (if you're interested in intonation) and I guess it goes withot saying, but when you have settled on a brand of clarinet you like and it's not hand made (i.e. the factory churns them out as they do with R13's), try at least four or five of the same model to find the one that you are happiest with. A lot of intonation issues are related to key / pad height etc but the less adjusting you have to do the better.
How exciting! Have fun!
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-06-21 14:00
Don't discount the Leblanc Cadenza, as well as the Lyrique. Both are excellent instruments. Each comes with two tuning barrels and a decent mouthpiece. Support form the dewigner of either one (Morrie Backun and Tom Ridenour, respectively) is just a phone call or e-mail away. Either one is substantially less than an R13, wich is also an excellent choice. It's just not the ONLY choice!
FYI, I have an R13, a Cadenza and an Evette-Schaeffer Master Model. All are excellent instruments.
Jeff
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-06-21 14:42
Mantra,mantra. It was a simple answer to a simple question. Sure, there are many other options all with poorer odds.
Bob Draznik
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2007-06-21 14:56
There are some excellent quality instruments made of all models of all makers. Finding one is a problem. Snavely reccomended trying at least 20 unculled, same model instruments for two weeks. Or, you can go to the factory and try all. Also, there are experts who will select an instrument for you. Good luck.
richard smith
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Author: yomaster
Date: 2007-06-21 15:35
Get one of those purple plastic student clarinets. As soon as the band director sees it they will know you are a serious player and you will be 1rst chair within weeks.
Bonade regular ligature is #1
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Author: samohan245
Date: 2007-06-21 15:41
haha
thanks all i think im going to stick with the R13 vintage model or the prestige
thank you all for your support but keep those suggestions coming!!!!!
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Author: yomaster
Date: 2007-06-21 15:56
R13 is the best. I was joking about the plastic clarinet. Any of you ever play any heavy metal or classic rock on your clarinet? It's great for laughs. Especially if you can tongue really fast you can play stuff like megadeth and metallica (of course metallica before they sold out and became a pop band).
Bonade regular ligature is #1
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Author: musiciandave
Date: 2007-06-21 17:08
Hey, there are many brands out there which have great clarinets at various price points.
Figure out your budget and try the brands yourself. Someone may love Selmer, Leblanc (Cadenza is only $1800 and to me is a great bang for the buck), Buffet, Yamaha - everyone has their favorite that they play on and sound best on too.
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Author: Bartmann
Date: 2007-06-21 17:52
Samohan,
One of the greatest advantages of buying a high quality, play tested, pro horn is that you can no longer blame the clarinet for any deficiencies in tone or technique.
Bartmann
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-06-21 18:38
Bartmann wrote:
> Samohan,
>
> One of the greatest advantages of buying a high quality, play
> tested, pro horn is that you can no longer blame the clarinet
> for any deficiencies in tone or technique.
>
> Bartmann
Or disadvantage . . .
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Michael P
Date: 2007-06-22 05:12
honestly, if intonation and tuning mean enough to you to find a new clarinet (as you are doing now), then you'll be looking for a new clarinet after you play an R-13 for a while and realize its horrible tuning and intonation problems. Sure it's built well, looks nice, and you can join the R13 mafia, but you will struggle to have good tuning and intonation. Personally, I recommend the LeBlanc line and for those on a budget, the Lyrique by Tom Ridenour. Give Tom a call. He's very friendly and will give you some good advice on choosing a good clarinet or tell you more about his almost perfectly in tune, easy to play across all registers clarinet (that is under $1000).
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Author: vin
Date: 2007-06-22 15:21
Michael P- That's funny. So, the people on this thread who have recommended R13s must all not care about tuning and intonation? Give me a break. The list of professionals (who do care and play very well in tune) who use an R13 is staggering. Perhaps you already know that, which makes me wonder why you would say something uneducated like that. There are plenty of reasons not to like the R13, but saying unequivocally that "you'll be looking for a new clarinet after you play an R-13 for awhile" is complete bunk. There are very fine clarinets by many different makers (including the Lyrique, which you mentioned), but spewing false statements doesn't help anybody.
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Author: bufclar
Date: 2007-06-22 16:12
R13's can be exceptional but you really need to be dilligent when checking intonation. Good ones are out there and they are really, really good.
I also like the Yamaha CSG and SEV models. Yamaha has really taken a giant leap forward from say 10 years ago. It probably helps that players like John Yeh, David Shifrin, and Bill Jackson all play Yamaha and give the company feedback and advice on their horns. They are deffinetly worth trying and are a little cheaper than Buffet and much cheaper than Leblanc.
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