 The Clarinet BBoard
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Author: JimV
Date: 2005-09-03 14:13
Hi Everyone
Has anyone heard where Pete Fountain is? I hope all the guys like Jack Maheu, Tim Laughin and all the other great jazz players that keep this type of music alive got out of there before the storm hit. What a trajady!
Jim
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-09-03 16:58
Of no practical value and not directly related to this site, but the situation in New Orleans/Beloxi and other places after Katrina is closely followed by lots of people over here; it's topic n° 1 in the news, and people really realize the enourmous problems over there.
Just heared Belgian specialist logistic team has got approval (from US authoritese) to assist and they'll take off tomorrow morning.
Really hope, 'clarinet playing' will soon become biggest 'concern' to all people in that area. Unfortunately I'm afraid it will take quite some time ...
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Author: joannew
Date: 2005-09-04 08:20
Wow, it's really touching to see the musical community looking out for each other like this.
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2005-09-04 09:28
I was just considering this yesterday, as I remembered an educational photo in one of my schools of a jazz combo in New Orleans (I think the backdrop says "Maison Bourbon"). Not because they're musicians particularly, but I thought of those blokes whose photo was taken as they played a few years ago, and wondered how the're coping right now.
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Author: mkybrain
Date: 2005-09-04 16:34
I though Pete Fountain wasn't in New Orleans anymore.
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Author: 3dogmom
Date: 2005-09-04 16:44
Tonight on Larry King, Wynton Marsalis is going to talk about his hometown and how this affects him and his family.
Sue Tansey
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2005-09-04 16:59
I don't know where he lives, but according to this link, he has been playing at casino magic at Bay St. Louis (between New Orleans and Biloxi).
http://www.casinomagic-baystlouis.com/
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-09-04 17:25
Not so far from here a 'jazz club : Het Veerhuis " hosted Sammy Remington and friends, this weekend. Most of them are real New Orleans people who now 'were lucky (?) to be in Belgium when IT happened'
What they play is real New Orleans Dixeyland (Sammy used to be out there most of his time) and this club here really 'pampers' this one and only style.
It's a strange style for a 'classic' clarinet player like me; they actually play in a way I try to avoid for more than 30 years. It's clarinet playing, but not really my way ...
Anyhow, I enjoyed a celebrational concert (with Sammy) a few months ago, and in a funny way this whole thing shows how small this world can be... and how a 67cm instrument and a few notes(albeit played totally different !!) can bring people together (= which is also the case for this BBoard by the way).
I makes me think that life could be much simpler if one could concentrate on the most important issues, art (and clarinet as a tiny little piece of that) could be a good start.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-04 18:13
I just put a message on Doreen's Jazz Guestbook [N O], which is active, asking for her to give us a bit of info, if possible. Will report any news. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: fredackerman
Date: 2005-09-04 18:23
With all the tragic death & destruction a glimmer of hope for New Orleans.. In today's New York Times article: "French Quarter Becomes Oasis of Wary Calm" it looks as if the district survived the storm and flooding. I'm both delighted by some good news for a change and absolutely amazed that all those fabled buildings are still with us. If the Quarter had been decimated then those calling for not rebuilding the city on it's present perilous site would've had a strong argument. Perhaps the "inner" city should be limited to hotels, restaurants, clubs and large parks, so evacuation if ever needed again would be on a much smaller scale.
Fred
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-09-04 18:56
"It's a strange style for a 'classic' clarinet player like me; they actually play in a way I try to avoid for more than 30 years. It's clarinet playing, but not really my way ..."
It really makes one wonder, doesn't it!
Bob Draznik
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-09-04 19:06
It sure is.
I'll never 'like it' in a sense of loving, or adoring it.
But I don't think it's of 'less value', it's just different,another way of using the same wood, reed and keys.
It opens ones mind ... and at the right place, right moment ..
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-09-04 19:09
here's a message board for those interested in the fates of NO jazz and bluesmen, for the most part: http://www.satchmo.com/nolavl/boards.html
Fred: I have to object to your suggestion. You're saying that New Orleans should be preserved as only a Disneyland entertainment site for well off tourists and conventioneers. Granted, that had become the basis for the City's economy. But shouldn't it also be rebuilt for the residents who lived and suffered through the worst of the disaster? Can't a better city be rebuilt for and by them too?
Should only Fisherman's Wharf and Ghiradelli Square have been preserved after the last San Francisco eartquake? Should tall building targets be rebuilt in lower Manhattan? Must we put out western forest fires to protect poorly developed subdivisions and gated communities? Should beachfront communities be rebuilt in Florida?
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Author: fredackerman
Date: 2005-09-05 03:58
Larry I don't think you understand the dynamics of what is happening, there is a definite buzz in D.C. concerning if its at all feasible to rebuild a city that is below sea level! We're talking a tremendous amount of money here to make it "safe" and there still wouldn't be any guarantee that this could never happen again. You really think it wise to jam 485,000 people back in there? This will be a very hot debate for the next few years..
Fred
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-09-05 13:35
Fred,
Of course it's feasible to rebuild a city below sea level - look at Amsterdam. The discussion, to the extent that there's even been one outside of Dennis Hastert and the right wing echo chamber, is not really about feasability - it's about politics and national priorities.
I think, though, that we're getting way beyond the subject of this website.
Care to talk about Stanley Drucker, instead?
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Author: vin
Date: 2005-09-05 14:38
Let's make everything the same! Let's make sure they have a Convention Center, McDonalds, Taco Bell, Hummer dealership and push all diversity out! Let's make the poor people go away and never come back! Then people will really want to come to classical concerts!
(for those of you who aren't too bright, this was sarcastic)
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-09-05 14:48
Vin, you just listed employers of mass diversity 
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Author: fredackerman
Date: 2005-09-05 18:21
Larry, Amsterdam did the work correctly and does the maintenance, if not for their system of dams, dikes and locks perhaps three quarters of The Netherlands would be underwater!
Fred
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2005-09-05 18:38
Doreen is a gem. I never knew her name nor that she has a website. She would just show up on the sidewalk, unleash her horn, and seemingly the brass players would show up and join in.
I have heard her many times in front of the Cathedral in Jackson Sq.
(My son is Tulane grad, so lots of excursions to Nawlins)
I always suspected she had some major training....her sound is great, and she tosses in certain scales and arpeggios (in her own style) that are right out of Baermann.
Now I read that she attended the Hart school.
Hope that she is ok and will be back in action at the old stomping grounds.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-09-05 20:40
There's a lot we Belgians (specially the flemisch, because we speek dutch too) joke about when discussing the Dutch, but they sure know how to deal with water.
After a hugh flood in 1953 with almost 2000 death, they re-engineered there seaside completely and even gained useable country on the sea.
If they're now re-visiting their plans it's only to make them even better.
Post Edited (2005-09-05 20:40)
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2005-09-05 20:52
Also, wrt New Oleans vs Amsterdam:
Amsterdam is not located in a hurricane thoroughfare!
Bob Phillips
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Author: JimV
Date: 2005-09-06 06:33
Hi all
For the last couple of years since Pete closed his club at the Hilton Pete has been playing Tuesday & Wednesday nights at Cassino Magic in Bay St Louis. He has an old antibelium home in Bay St Louis and still had his home in New Orleans about a block from Lake Ponchatrain where he has lived the last 40+ years. It's likely the one in New Orleans is flooded big time and best guess how the one in Bay St Louis faired as that's about where the eye of the storm passed.
I received the following email from a friend about Pete just this morning:
"Famed New Orleans jazz clarinetist Pete Fountain survived Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, said a co-worker of Fountain's manager. Fountain's sister said early Saturday afternoon that she had been unable to reach her brother, who owns houses in Bay St. Louis, Miss. and near the New Orleans lakefront -- both areas that were heavily damaged by the hurricane. Fountain apparently escaped the storm's path ahead of landfall, but had not yet established contact with his sister. "
Jim Valentine
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Author: OpusII
Date: 2005-09-06 06:54
Quote:
Belgianclarinet:
There's a lot we Belgians (specially the Flemish, because we speak Dutch too) joke about when discussing the Dutch, but they sure know how to deal with water.
After a hugh flood in 1953 with almost 2000 death, they re-engineered there seaside completely and even gained useable country on the sea.
If they're now re-visiting their plans it's only to make them even better. Funny, we also make many joke's about our Belgian neighbours... ![[hot]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/hot.gif)
But it's a terrible disaster that happened in New Orleans. The Netherlands has offered to send our engineers to New Orleans and there are navy ships on the way to help.
Bob is right, Amsterdam is not located in a hurricane thoroughfare….
The whole Netherlands is not even located in a hurricane thoroughfare… but we’ve used the necessary technology for our location. I’m sure they can think of a way to make New Orleans a safer place. Our country knows much about fighting water because we’ve had many floods ourselves…
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Author: GEM
Date: 2005-09-25 01:49
I know this is kind of an old thread, but I'm from New Orleans and work for WWL-TV, the only station to stay on the air during Hurricane Katrina (see http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6257813.html for the details).
This is the first time I've had the oppurtunity to get on the board since August 27. We had Pete on the air about 2 weeks ago. He's fine and living with family in Vacherie, Louisiana. He lost the house in Mississippi, but hasn't been able to assess the New Orleans house, although the general area where the house is had a great deal of water. He managed to save 2 horns and lost all of his gold records, his Tonight Show memorabilia and lots more. A Mississipi neighbor found one of his other horns after the storm and brought it to him, but it's not in good shape. In true form , Pete said he "plans to keep tootin' - it's all I know how to do."
Many other New Orleans musicians lost everything in the storm. There's an article in The Times Picayune describing the Preservation Hall Jazz band and how its members lost most of their instruments, but eventually linked up and are playing a benefit concert. The Louisiana Philharmonic as well was dispersed across the country but got together (in Memphis or Nashville, I think) for a benefit concert.
As to Amsterdam, there's a New Orleans connection. The pumps used to drain the Netherlands were invented in New Orleans by a rather eccentric engineer who first used the technology to drain New Orleans. The Dutch were so impressed, they bought the design from him. I'm sorry, but I can't remembner his name, however, when he died, he left a bunch of money - and his prized boat - to Tulane University, so you might find some info on him at their website.
As to rebuilding New Orleans, I can say that it will be rebuilt. My family has lived there for 200 years and has weathered epidemics, storms, and fires that destroyed the city several times. Each time it was rebuilt. The port and the oil industry are too important to the nation for New Orleans NOT to be rebuilt. Having risked my life to get the story out over this last month, I can state unequivocally that I intend to be a part of that process. Oh, and I'll keep on tootin', too.
GEM
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-25 13:54
I've re-read this entire thread !!, and observed that others also appreciate Doreen's ability and training, visit her web-site, and when re-opened, visit Jackson Square to hear both old-traditional Dixie and more-modern jazz interpretations. Was well worth a CD and contribution to me and my group. Glad to hear of Pete's safety, but losses, WOW. On MP Work, the Sax Gourmet was attempting to re-start, and giving 50% discount to our struggling musicians. Was interested in your pump story, GEM, I'll search for possible patents on systems as mentioned. If you can give me name and even-approx. dates, it would speed my search. Lots of news, now. TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-25 15:30
Addendum to the above. Was the "eccentric Engr's" name LeTourneau ??. That name is familiar via my Chem Eng training and The Handbook prob. makes mention. Fluid flow was well into my career, and appears in a number of my own patents. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: GEM
Date: 2005-09-25 17:56
Don,
LeTourneau may well be his name. I'm sorry I don't remember it too clearly, but I've been living away from home for 4 weeks and working nearly nonstop with little sleep all that time, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. The article about him that stuck in my mind was in the Times Picayune sometime in the last 8 or 9 years. The pump design was revolutionary, so if that's your field, you might know better than I do. As I recall, the pump had an unusual shape in that it was considerably larger on one end than the other and I think the mechanism internally was a spiral? As I recall, water can't be compressed, but the design enabled a higher volume of water to be pushed through the system - akin to a jet engine's compressing and forcing air at high volume, I believe. The other thing that stuck in my memory of the article was that in order to keep the money he willed to Tulane, they had to preserve and display his boat - the thing he loved most in life. It's still on display somewhere on Tulane's campus ( I, too, have fond memories of a sailboat I inherited from my grandfather so I'm always attracted to boat stories).
GEM
P.S.
The article on New Orleans and its importance to the nation was terriffic.
Post Edited (2005-09-25 18:17)
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Author: GEM
Date: 2005-09-25 19:44
Don,
After a little poking on the Internet, I found his name: Albert Bladwin Wood. See http://www.asme.org/history/brochures/h003.pdf for a brief biography and description of his pump (it's older than I thought, he died in 1956). I was unable to locate the Times Picayune article, but they are still operating in a remote site and may not be fully back up on the Internet.
GEM
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-09-25 22:06
Hi GEM - I tried, but being quite unskilled in this tech, all I got was a bunch of numbers. I'll look [pat-wise] for "Wood AND pump" and add limiting words to a?raft? of patents retrieved. The pump type [screw] rings bells to me as the name Moyno, so will look. An interest search, somewhat diff. from clarinet and music !! Will report. [Am I "out-of-bounds" GBK?] Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-09-25 22:21
[ This thread served its original intent and has now gotten too far off topic. - GBK ]
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