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 Re: One in Four Classical Musicians Use Beta Blockers
Author: J. J. 
Date:   2006-03-25 01:09

Super Mario wrote:

"in conclusion, i completely disagree with using them. the body is an amazing thing, tampering with it just to give you an "edge" is just as excuse for laziness."


I think the hundreds of successful musicians in orchestras who you otherwise admire would disagree with that. My guess is that you have no idea how much time and effort they have devoted to their profession.

I also think the professionals on this board would be insulted by your simple remedies and ideas on how to combat nerves. Do you really believe for a second that they did not make serious attempts to fight their nerves naturally?

For the record, none of this has anything to do with gaining an "edge." For some, audition and performance pressures are worse than others. This is a means to compensate, not something that allows them to play better. The steroids analogy is a terrible one because steroids allow athletes to reach physical levels and abilities that would be otherwise unatainable.

Furthermore, please don't lecture this board on what you perceive as a health risk. Your six sentences about the function of nerves was very impressive, but the only thing you could accomplish with it was to determine that beta blockers change how your body works. Everyone knows this. Your analysis of "it is unhealthy just like any other drug that changes how your body works," is completely unnecessary. Since the data cited in the article is almost 20 years old (fine timing, by the way), I'm left to wonder why the author neglected to cite an example of a musician who used them for pressure situations and suffered "unhealthy" effects. I am, of course, excluding the obscure story about the pianist who not only obtained his medication illegally, but also took more than was recommended on first usage. There may be some example out there, but I'd like to see it before you make a very general statement about what the body can take.

Maybe a little more than a gut reaction and subsequent justification of this position is needed here?
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