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Author: phoenix_song
Date: 2006-09-15 03:36
I recently heard from another oboist who thinks these play even better than Lorees and they're quite a bit cheaper too (even the top model). Do any of you have experience with these? I'd love to find them in a shop somewhere so I can try one out for myself, but I haven't been able to find anything in that regard, either... the patricola website is not very helpful for finding retailers. All I can find is a link that leads to a page with a bunch of national flags on it, but nothing that's a location link that I can follow.
Anyway, if any of you have tried one or know where one could *go* to try one let me know. By the way, I'm in California if that helps. Thanks!
My wallet photos:
Phoebe the Lesher
Marilee the Loree
Walter and Nichols the oboe reeds
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Author: DressedToKill
Date: 2006-09-15 15:41
I have played quite a lot on Patricola instruments (oboes, EH, and clarinets), and I have touted them on the boards many, many times.
During my undergrad, I played a Patricola English horn exclusively, the entire time. I absolutely LOVED it. Fantastic tone, the intonation was great, and the low notes practically whispered if you asked them to. The low Bb was also really, really nice to have.
I have fallen bum over teakettle for the Fossati oboes, and will probably always play a Fossati oboe, but I am currently very, very seriously trying to restructure my budget to afford a rosewood Patricola d'amore, and I'm broadly hinting to my partner and my parents that I want a rosewood Patricola EH for Christmas this year.
You should be able to get one sent to you on trial from WWBW or Muncy...I really, really love the Evoluzione, and if I were in the market for a new oboe, it'd be on my very-very-very short list.
Try a few and report back with your impressions for us!
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Author: my58vw
Date: 2006-09-16 04:30
I do believe RDG also sells them (I remember trying out one before I bought my greenline).
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Author: phoenix_song
Date: 2006-09-16 07:45
Definitely will... I talked to my studio teacher, who says "I'll never judge an oboe by brand alone, there are some really good Selmers (somewhere, probably) and some really bad Lorees." Anyway, she told me to "buy" about half a dozen oboes at once (on trial) so I will let you all know when I do that. The only thing I know is that I'm not getting a Loree, this being because a) Lorees are too expensive for me and b) they don't really impress me that much more than any other "good" brand does. I think my crappy Lesher sounds about as good as the Loree I play on, although the Lesher is only modified conservatory (no left f, but it has everything else) and as a result I play on the Loree.
Anyway, I will report back, I promise. ^_^
My wallet photos:
Phoebe the Lesher
Marilee the Loree
Walter and Nichols the oboe reeds
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Author: lbarton
Date: 2006-09-16 18:05
I have had Woodwind/Brasswind send several oboes of different brands, in same price range, for students to try before buying. They have included Patricola, Bulgheroni, Buffet, Fox, Yamaha etc. The student models are all between $1300 and $2100. All are nice oboes but on five different trials the decision always came down to the wood Bulgheroni being the choice for good sound, ease of playing etc. The new Yamahas are also very nice and extremely easy to blow for the very young student. Of the five students who have bought Bulgheronis over a period of about six years, only one cracked and the seller repaired it within the warranty one year. Ask WW/BW to have an oboist check and adjust the instruments before sending ---they do not always do this unless you request it specifically. Lois Barton
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-09-16 19:30
If I were on a liimited budget, I'd check out the Yamaha 841. You can get them at a lot of places (Weber is the only one I know off hand). Philadelphia ORchestra players have been playing on them, and I think Ferillo in Boston is still playing on one. 5 year warranty on cracking and parts. Total cost: about $4500.
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Author: phoenix_song
Date: 2006-09-16 23:03
Yeah, around $4000-$5000 is my range. Mainly I'm looking for a good oboe that I can afford and yet one that I won't grow out of (until I can afford to own 2 or 3). For me, this means I'm shopping around on the best value for professional models.
My wallet photos:
Phoebe the Lesher
Marilee the Loree
Walter and Nichols the oboe reeds
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Author: oboeblank
Date: 2006-09-17 16:25
I think that Ferrillo is playing an old B series Loree. The Ferrillo Loree became the Yamaha design.
I could be wrong.
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Author: mschmidt
Date: 2006-09-17 23:24
Your range sounds like you could get a real nice oboe. Check out some of the used oboes at Midwest Musical Imports:
http://www.mmimports.com/used.cfm#usedoboes
Well, I see that an older Marigaux that used to be there for $4xxx is now gone...I'd be tempted to try that old Laubin if I were still looking for an oboe...
Mike
Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-09-18 00:13
The Laubin doesn't have a plastic sleeve, and could be blown out.
I recently bought a used oboe from MMI, and was not pleased with the condition the instrument came in. It was missing the horseshoe bracket on the 2nd joint, and they refused to pay for a replacement saying it's fine as is (which is true, but it's safer to put one on to prevent bending the rod, and they should have been willing to pay for it.) Also, some pads on the instrument are not mounted perfectly but rather at an angle which causes some leakage. MMI should have caught these mistakes and fixed them before selling a used instrument.
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Post Edited (2006-09-18 00:16)
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Author: mschmidt
Date: 2006-09-18 22:15
Interesting information. I wasn't so much thinking MMI in particular, but it was the site I knew of that had the greatest number of used oboes with prices attached. Nora Post, Mark Chudnow, Charles Double Reeds, and many other places frequently have used oboes for sale in the 4-5K range. The 13-year-old Marigaux I got from Nora Post for an even 4K is quite satisfactory!
Mike
Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore
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Author: Oboehotty
Date: 2006-09-19 00:28
For your price range, you might try a Covey oboe -- great horns! I also like the Fossati horns, but you have to find the correct one. also, look at the Howarth XL -- made for american players -- fantastic horn!
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Author: DressedToKill
Date: 2006-09-19 19:04
All of the above suggestions are wonderful, but still...try the Patricolas. I know there seems to be some sort of anti-Patricola bias in the US (or if not "anti", it's just not even considered). For your budget, you can get a top-of-the-line in rosewood if you want...
Yes, try the Coveys and Fossatis (!) and Howarths and Marigaux and what have you...they're all fantastic; just don't ignore the Patricolas if that's what you're really interested in.
In addition to the resources that others have mentioned, check out Cygnet Studios at http://www.usedoboes.com They frequently have lots of great and interesting pro oboes!
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