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Author: clarimad
Date: 2023-03-14 19:38
Photo attached of my oboe by Buffet Crampon bearing the serial number 18202.
I am unable to work out which model it is. I am assuming it is a student model?
Thanks in anticipation
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-03-14 21:09
Chances are it's a Schreiber-built one.
If you can attach a photo or a link to an image of the same model, that will determine what it is.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-03-16 03:07
That's an entry level, basic thumbplate system Schreiber-built Buffet - they were usually called Buffet Artist oboes and were numbered 4120 (with nickel plated keywork) and 4121 (with silver plated keywork).
They were mainly made for the UK market, just as Bundy oboes were made with basic thumbplate system to low Bb for the UK market.
The Howarth S10, B&H Regent and Ward & Winterbourn TW1 oboes are the same spec (basic thumbplate system to low Bb with LH C-D trill and simple 8ves) as this Buffet.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Hotboy
Date: 2023-03-17 02:24
Chris, what is the spatula key on the Bb vent used for? I can't figure out what that might be used for.
The spatula key on the C vent is used for a A# to B trill, but the lower spatula function eludes me.
Dane
Bay Area, California
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-03-17 04:46
That's just a hangover from the German spec ones and serves no purpose on thumbplate systems. I've usually removed the LH2 spatula whenever I've worked on these oboes as it's redundant - it's only there because of the key casting used instead of having a dedicated casting just for thumbplate systems which aren't made in anywhere near as many numbers as conservatoire systems - it's all about economics.
On German spec oboes it works like the LH1 spatula on the C key - only this time you'd use LH2 to hold down the spatula on the Bb key to make playing tremolos from any RH note (D-F# or upper C#-F#) to A without getting any accidental Bb blips. Because of the thumbplate system's design, using it will prevent the Bb key from opening when using either the thumbplate or side key.
On some older models (and on thumbplate system oboes and cors made by Loree), I've also fully disengaged or removed the adjusting screw that links the side key to LH3 as that will prevent some trills and tremolos using the side key while LH3 is held closed.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Hotboy
Date: 2023-03-20 21:25
Yeah, I can see that spatula occasionally being useful to me for an F#/A tremolo or rapid repeating D major or C# minor arpeggios.
Dane
Bay Area, California
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-03-21 01:19
On cors it would make the last D Major triad passage in the William Tell overture blip-free. I often hear that with some accidental Bb blips when going from D up to A with the regular fingerings. You could always use the harmonic A instead (8ve2 xxx|xxx) to avoid the blips.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: EaubeauHorn
Date: 2023-03-21 18:41
Is there, somewhere out there, a pamphlet or book or whatever that gives the basics of oboe construction and adjustment? I see all these terms and have no idea what you are talking about. I would be capable of adjusting these but it would be nice to have something to educate myself with first. The nearest person who can do adjustments is a two hour drive away, so it would be worth my while to get an idea.
Post Edited (2023-03-21 18:42)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-03-21 21:06
There is the Sawicki book which explains the adjustments using a Loree oboe as the example - here's a PDF of it: https://kupdf.net/download/a-method-for-adjusting-the-oboe-sawicki_59897113dc0d60490d300d1c_pdf
I don't particularly care for the way he labels the main action fingerplates using note names (F# key, E key, D key, etc.) as that needs context instead of the far more universal labelling LH1, LH2, LH3, RH1, RH2, RH3 which applies across all woodwind instruments, even those with no keys at all.
As far as feeler gauges go, I use the silver Rizla cigarette papers which are half the thickness of the blue Rizlas most people use. Some use thin mylar sheet or pieces of 120 minute cassette tape as a feeler gauge.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: EaubeauHorn
Date: 2023-03-26 21:08
off topic question -- the poster says photo attached. I see no photo, but no one else has commented on this.
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Author: mschmidt
Date: 2023-03-26 22:20
The fourth post has the image correctly linked.
Mike
Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore
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