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Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2021-12-03 07:35

How common is it (was it) for boxwood to be used for oboes and cors? Are there any drawbacks to it? I notice it does not appear to be used today though. I saw that there was some kind of moth infestation in Europe that did a lot of them in, and wonder if that is why or if there is another reason.

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 Re: boxwood
Author: Hotboy 
Date:   2021-12-05 21:23

IIRC, boxwood was commonly used hundreds of years ago because it was easier to turn and bore than modern alternatives. Nowadays, I think it is a novelty because its sound doesn't have enough projection to play in a modern symphony orchestra, which makes boxwood oboes generally useful only for chamber music.

Dane
Bay Area, California

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 Re: boxwood
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2021-12-07 00:25

Thanks. I was told a cor I was interested in was boxwood, but turns out it was actually rosewood. Makes more sense.

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 Re: boxwood
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2021-12-11 00:59

For Baroque through to early Romantic era instruments which aren't overloaded with keywork, boxwood is better suited as it's less stable than grenadilla and having much simpler keywork means there's less to go wrong.

More modern instruments with far more keywork need more stability and as boxwood has the tendency to warp, that's only going to cause no end of trouble. If you look at photos of vintage oboes in books or go and see museum displays, you'll often see most of the boxwood ones are usually banana-shaped.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: boxwood
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2022-05-21 01:26

I was wondering about the picture of whatever it is on the cover of my Vade Mecum, how they could possibly have bored that curved instrument back at that point in time (or even now.) If it is one that has warped, that answers my question.

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 Re: boxwood
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2022-05-21 02:25

Curved cors anglais and oboes da caccia were usually made from maple with straight joints to start with (and bored), then wedges were cut out in several places along the length of the joints, the joints bent and glued back together, the outside refinished and then covered with leather to hide the glued joints. Some may have been bent by steaming and clamping the joints in a jig or form until they cooled so the curve was permanently locked in.

Here's some x-ray images of curved cors (and curved basset horns):

http://www.mimo-international.com/media/GNM/IMAGE/1272294272843_2.jpg?_ga=2.161519358.319461731.1653084967-1929229359.1653084967
http://www.mimo-international.com/media/GNM/IMAGE/1272294205046_2.jpg?_ga=2.199135725.319461731.1653084967-1929229359.1653084967
http://www.mimo-international.com/media/GNM/IMAGE/1272294249109_2.jpg?_ga=2.161519358.319461731.1653084967-1929229359.1653084967
http://www.mimo-international.com/media/GNM/IMAGE/1272294296906_2.jpg?_ga=2.89692761.319461731.1653084967-1929229359.1653084967
http://www.mimo-international.com/media/GNM/IMAGE/1272294320343_2.jpg?_ga=2.89692761.319461731.1653084967-1929229359.1653084967
http://www.mimo-international.com/media/GNM/IMAGE/1272293871187_2.jpg?_ga=2.89692761.319461731.1653084967-1929229359.1653084967

Images from this page:

https://mimo-international.com/MIMO/detailstatic.aspx?RSC_BASE=IFD&RSC_DOCID=OAI_GNM_798074&TITLE=/oboe-da-caccia-in-f-3-klappen

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2022-05-21 02:26)

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 Re: boxwood
Author: mschmidt 
Date:   2022-05-21 20:08

Thanks so much for this information, Chris!

Mike

Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore



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