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 speaking of student oboes
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2012-02-21 17:13

I am looking into buying 4 student oboes for a project that i am running in Malaysia. They have to each weight at about/under the 1000-1,500 euro / 1900 USD mark. The last time i heard the only decent playable oboes at this price were Korean made oboes. No reply from the maker after a very long time. A reputable maker from Sweden/UK refuses to compromise and thus cannot give me anything substantial at that price unless we are talking about 10 oboes here. So....any suggestions?

Howard

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: JRC 
Date:   2012-02-21 17:20

Look into Yamaha. What I saw so far is good for the price they charge. Try to make deals with the manufacturers or wholesalers. You can save the retail mark-ups.

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: oboi 
Date:   2012-02-21 18:48

Are you looking into used intermediates? You might be able to find good ones of those rather than new student <shudder> oboes. I'm trying (well, I haven't really tried...) to sell my intermediate Yamaha for $2000, which has been collecting dust for the past year.

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: heckelmaniac 
Date:   2012-02-21 20:35

On the second hand market,
I would say have a look at the Linton model "ZRL" professional model.
(Yes, I know, the bulk of Linton USA made oboes= junk).
The ZRL model has ALL the professional keys, though no 3rd octave (does not need a 3rd octave key), and no low Bb resonance (does not need this either).
I have come prefer the ZRL over any of the Selmer, Yamaha, Buffet, or even Fox student or intermediate model oboes for beginning students. I always recommend that even the first day beginner have benefit of an oboe with all the requisite professional keys if at all possible. The ZRL was also marketed under the "Armstrong" aegis (model 5030), and all the ZRL Armstrong instruments have a serial number beginning with ZRL. Wood or plastic. Though I prefer the wood version, the plastic in fact has a good sound. Usually about $1400-$1600
after servicing. All of the teachers I have introduced the ZRL oboes to have been most favorable. The ZRL model does not come up for sale often, though in my estimation well worth a look in comparison to "everything else" on the block...

Truly,
Peter

Oboes.us

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: WoodwindOz 
Date:   2012-02-21 22:40

Howard, Hannah at Hannah's Oboes always has quite a few Fox 333/330 in that price range, this would be a good way of getting a 'matching set', even though they would be used. Perhaps she might be able to help you a little with the costs if you speak to her about the situation.

Rachel

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: theoboefairy 
Date:   2012-02-22 03:19

Howard, I an easily assist you in four exceptionally wonderful oboes in your budget for your project. Let's talk! Thanks, hannah

hannahsoboes

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2012-02-22 14:55

Peter, who in the world stocks these oboes and who actually makes them?

Regards,
Howard

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: heckelmaniac 
Date:   2012-02-23 07:57

The Linton ZRL oboes were in fact made BY Linton in Elkhart.
The ZRL is not one of the "Linton" Cabart or Malerne "stencil" instruments.
The key-work is actually OK- superior to Selmer, Larilee, and such ilk.
I believe that Linton stopped manufacturing the ZRL sometimes in the 1990s.
The last price I have seen for a new wood ZRL was about $3975,
though the plastic version was likely less. I buy the ZRL oboes on Ebay for between $600 and $900 and have the instruments overhauled/serviced.
The ZRL oboes do not come up for sale very often- perhaps one every two to three months. The other difficulty is that it takes forever to have an oboe overhauled due to the dire shortage of oboe repair specialists. All of the oboe repair specialists who accomplish repair/overhaul for me have work many, many months in advance.
Unless the economy crashes into oblivion, oboe repair specialists seem to have a recession proof calling! I have 3-4 ZRL oboes now all awaiting overhaul- I do not ever dare make any promises to prospective buyers about when a specific oboe may emerge from a repair person's atelier...
With best wishes,
Peter

Oboes.us

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: ltallas 
Date:   2013-01-05 22:10

Hello, Would you please tell me a bit more about your Intermediate Yamaha oboe? How old is the oboe? How much has it been played? What is the condition of this oboe? What was the level of playing? Thanks, Lois

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: GoodWinds 2017
Date:   2013-01-07 06:38

For beginners, I like the lightweight and ease of playing of the Yamaha student instrument: with a good reed, I played it in a pro gig all summer and it served quite well. I use it to introduce new students to oboe before they commit to buying one.
Of course it doesn't have all the keywork that the intermediate/pro models do, but I think it's fairly durable. I bought it used for $750.

GoodWinds

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2013-01-07 08:36

Do bear in mind the UK spec Yamaha 200 series oboes have low Bb and a forked F vent (but no LH F key) - they do have a thumbplate fitted making them dual system, but that can easily be removed (and the pillar holes filled in) to make it purely conservatoire system.

Photo: http://instrument-images.s3.amazonaws.com/full/yob241b.jpg

Video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nt-zbCtBPQ4

They also appear to have a low B-C link so you can slur from D to low Bb or Bb without the need to hold the low C key down. You can also do a low B-C# trill by holding the low B key down and trilling with the low C# key. Whether they all have this remains to be seen (the old "We reserve the right to change the specification without notice on all our products" thing), but it's very useful in an oboe without the articulated low C# fitted as it's near impossible to do a low B-C# trill on them.

Chris.

Post Edited (2013-01-07 08:51)

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: JohnSid 
Date:   2021-01-27 05:06

Have you ever heard of an Olds brand ZRL? The keys look identical to the Linton ZRL. The serial number is indeed ZRL. I won it on eBay. Also, I won a Linton with the serial number starting LL and it has all the keys of the ZRL plus the Bb vent and third octave key. Have you or anyone experience with an LL? It play great, good tone and intonation.

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 Re: speaking of student oboes
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2021-02-10 21:53

I have a wood F. Platz full-conservatory oboe, and although Peter Hurd's website dismisses it as a student instrument and one to be avoided, mine plays very well, as far as I can tell with my limited oboe-playing skills (I'm actually a single-reed player).

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