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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-07 07:04
A few months ago I came across a Pilgerstorfer reed.
The mouthpiece is a BEHN PRESCOTT medium.
I tried Dolce and MORRE #4 and 4.5. The Dolce is very responsive and very easy to blow.
The MORRE has a warmer tone and the legato connects very nicely.
I use both now and just bought a RONDO to try as well.
I would like to hear from anyone on this forum who has used PilgerStorfer reeds and what they think of them.
Post Edited (2024-02-07 07:04)
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Author: ruben
Date: 2024-02-07 10:19
Takuto: I LOVE their reeds! -especially the Morré. I wouldn't think of using any other brand.
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2024-02-07 20:15
I'm a huge Pilgerstorfer fan and have turned fellow musicians on to them.
I find them remarkably consistent and in need often of the least amount of work to bring up to decent levels of play.
I have though found them slightly weaker than there labeleled strength using a "Vandoren" standard, but nothing that can't be compensated for at the point of purchase given that this weaker strength standard is nonetheless consistent.
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Author: GoatTnder
Date: 2024-02-07 21:56
I came across Pilgerstorfers through the Clark Fobes website this past summer. And gave 'em a shot because they're cheaper than Vandorens. SO GOOD!
-Andy Cabrera
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Author: ruben
Date: 2024-02-07 23:39
Goat: I suppose they use French cane. From where, I don't know, but I find their reeds last longer than Vandoren's.
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2024-02-08 09:47
Hi S. I've tried lots of Pilgerstorfers. They can be very good or not so, but that depends heavily on the rest of your setup. They are maybe more consistent than Vandorens, but the big thing is that they sound different, and if you like a German/Austrian sound, they are a good bet, but it takes awhile to find the type that works for you. I now play an Austrian Boehm system mouthpiece, and the Exquisits, which Clark Fobes sells, work very well for me. I use a 1.5, but you might be able to use a 2. Previously, the Morrés worked well. With both, I can get a more German/Austrian sound than with others, although the Leuthner Wiener Schnitts come close. But basically, you have to have some disposable income to spend on messing with reeds until you hit on what works with your setup, and you probably need to be a little fanatical about getting that particular sound. I've played Dolce 4s in concerts and they worked, but tended to be a little brighter than I like. Rondos are a bit more stable, but not as responsive.
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-02-08 11:52
I gave them a go some years back and wasn't impressed, but others have had a different result it seems. That's normal (I've met many people over the years who HATE Vandoren for instance, and as many who ONLY played Vandoren).
One thing though, looking at Clarks website they appear $10 a box MORE expensive than Vandoren... unless I'm mistaken (I'm pretty sure it's showing me the US$ price, not the NZ$)
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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-08 19:55
Trying to buy Pilgerstorfer leads from Japan can be cheaper than the price of V12 in Japan.
(In exchange, you will have to pay for import shipping and waiting time for arrival...) .
Since Vandoren's price has gone up so much, I decided to try Pilgerstorfer, and I am very satisfied with my fateful encounter.
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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-09 15:56
By the way, what kind of mouthpiece do you use with PilgerStorfer reeds?
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Author: mqaa
Date: 2024-02-10 13:41
I just ordered a sample box of 12 reeds (rondo, dolce and morre) from Alexander. Will let you know what I think of them.
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Author: ruben
Date: 2024-02-10 20:08
Takuto: Is there no such thing as a good Japanese clarinet reed? If such is the case, that's surprising. There must be some really good cane in Japan.
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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-10 20:29
When I think of Japanese-made reeds, the only thing that comes to mind is ISHIMORI's reeds. Some people overseas may know ISHIMORI reeds from their ligatures, and you can find ISHIMORI reeds on the Fobse website.
However, when it comes to reeds made in Japan, that is about all that comes to mind, and the rest are privately made reeds.
In Japan, most people use Vandoren or D'Addario reeds, with the occasional Gonzalez reed, and the rest are not that major.
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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-10 20:36
My Japanese friends are basically having trouble with reeds.
However, since Japanese music schools do not offer classes on how to make clarinet reeds, they go back and forth between D'Addario and Vandoren without a deep understanding of reeds.
Sometimes Japanese students do not even know the difference between a V12 and a blue box.
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2024-02-10 20:47
S, I've played Pilgerstorfers with several kinds of Fobes mouthpieces and a Gleichweit. Different types of the reeds worked better with different mouthpieces. A good place to order some of the more esoteric types of Pilgerstorfers outside of the EU is https://www.klarinettenblaetter.de. The Austrian shops I've tried don't seem to ship to the U.S.; I don't know about Japan.
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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2024-02-12 12:29
I think the Rondo and Dolce are very much alike. For me the Dolce is a bit mellower in sound, the Rondo a bit more centered. Both are very responsive and easy to blow compared to the Morre. I have played them on a BD5 mouthpiece.
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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-12 14:43
I just received Rondo from Fobse and blew on it.
It is true that Dolce's Rondo is very similar.
The Dolce has a thinner tip and can be played very directly and energetically. The staccato can also be played very lightly.
The Rondo has a thicker tip than the Dolce, and I thought it would be a very good answer for those who find it peppy against the Dolce. Above all, I think it gives just the right blowing feel for those who are looking for an imaginary 3+ on the V12.
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Author: S.Takuto
Date: 2024-02-12 14:48
Does the uniformity of PilgerStorfer still come from the drying period?
As I recall, Vandoren and D'Addario take two years to dry before they become products, but PilgerStorfer takes three times longer, six years.
Certainly, the reeds look beautiful, almost golden in color compared to Vandoren and others.
When PilgerStorfer reeds are watered, the water supply rate is by far the fastest. Even when dried afterwards, the tips rarely distort and remain flat.
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