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 Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: Intonation 
Date:   2014-08-24 02:59

I'm just getting back into orchestral playing and have noticed while listening to a recording of the Dvorák Symphony 7 that the 3rd movement sounds like it is played on A clarinet. BUT the part only says "Clarinetto I" whilst the other movements say "Clarinetto I in B" Should I always assume that any orchestral part marked just "Clarinetto I" (or clarinet in any other language) should be played on A clarinet unless specified to be in B or any other key?

All other orchestral pieces I have are marked Clarinet in B so just wanted some confirmation just in case.

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: gsurosey 
Date:   2014-08-24 03:09

Movement 3 is for A clarinet (as is movement 4). Check out the part on IMSLP.

http://imslp.org/wiki/Symphony_No.7,_Op.70_%28Dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k,_Anton%C3%ADn%29

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Rachel

Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: Intonation 
Date:   2014-08-24 03:27

Thanks for the reply! I actually checked the score for it and saw it was in A. I was a quite unclear on the actual question I had. I actually wanted to know that if an orchestral part simply says "Clarinet I" with no indication of key, should I automatically assume it's in A? Or is this just a flaw in the part? I see that in the imslp part that it says "in A" at the top of the 3rd movement but in my copy of the part it does not.

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2014-08-24 03:47

I'd say flaw. A lot of today's desk top generated gobbledeegoop is just horrifying. Although not all transitions are marked clearly in original parts either. I recall sight-reading a Wagner overture where there is a tiny indicator in really small letters over a spot where the key changed "en ut," a French indicator to play the section in C. Wow that sounded bad for about ten measures!!!












............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2014-08-24 03:48

It should be identified either way - no, Clarinetto I doesn't default to A clarinet if not marked as Bb. Both of the electronic copies of the Dvorak 7th part I looked at (OMCDRL and IMSLP) and the Simrock part I have are clearly marked at the beginning of each movement. But it does happen that a publisher accidentally leaves out the indication. Sometimes the instrument is only indicated at a change, so if the clarinet changes mid-movement and continues on the same instrument in the next movement (not the case here), it may not be marked.

It's always possible by looking at a score or, if you're already in rehearsal, at the bassoonist's part next to you (or any other concert pitch instrument) to figure out what clarinet you should be playing by comparing your key signature to the concert key signature.

Karl

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: GBK 
Date:   2014-08-24 03:54

When in doubt, glance over to the 1st bassoon and see what key they are in.

Figure it out from there.

...GBK



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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: gsurosey 
Date:   2014-08-24 04:10

In Massenet's Meditation from Thais, the clarinet part for the arrangement I've played is in A. I had to look at the closest part I could see to figure out what key it was in (at that particular rehearsal, it was a flute part). All the part said was Clarinet (both parts were on the same page in score format; not a lot of clarinet action in that piece). I used to assume that no key marking implied that the part was in Bb, but I know it's not always true in orchestral music.

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Rachel

Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: Intonation 
Date:   2014-08-24 04:22

Thank you everyone! Definitely saved some confusion and possibly rehearsal time!

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: maxopf 
Date:   2014-08-24 04:34

The copy of Night on Bald Mountain I read off of in my youth orchestra this past year only said "Clarinet 1 in Bb" at the top. Boy was I surprised when suddenly "Muta in A" appeared over a very quick rest during sight-reading.

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2014-08-24 12:29

Good lesson to be learnt there Maxopf, look through the part before the rehearsal begins it look through the score ahead of the first rehearsal.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Clarinetto I and Clarinetto in B
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2014-08-26 06:22

I havne't played it in some time so I can't say this for sure but if the prior movement changed to the A clarinet before that mov't ended the publisher may not have needed to say A clarinet in the beginning of that mov't. But as I said, I'm not sure if that's the case here.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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