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 Re: Scale Requirements--have we surrendered?
Author: allencole 
Date:   2022-10-05 10:31

Matt74 wrote:

> The hardest stuff for me to finger isn't necessarily what has
> the biggest key signature. It music that has unusual patterns.
>
>
> For example: A Bach Gigue in 12/8 has sixteenth (1-2-3-2-1-3)
> at different steps of the scale. Like "Eb-F-G-F-Eb-G". It
> should be easy, but I wanted to play "Eb-F-G-Eb-F-G" because we
> practice broken scales like that. That's what Telemann or
> Handel would have written. My brain didn't want to switch.
> So, I have to think about it every time. I wonder if he did
> that on purpose, or if it never occurred to him to be "normal".
> LOL He's always mixing things up in ways you don't expect,
> except it's never gratuitous, it's always amazing.
>
> Theoretically the Bach fingerings should be "in hand" because
> it's only steps and thirds, but you have to pay attention
> because the grouping is different from what you've practiced.
> That's what I meant by mental agility.
>

>
> Post Edited (2022-10-05 10:00)

In fast passages like that, could you be thinking too hard about specific note identities? Our learning of scales, and the use of key signatures, should enable us to look at the staff more simply like a graph in faster passages--particularly those where there are no accidentals. Trust yourself to hit notes scalewise when you have a smooth diagonal, and be more watchful of where you're headed when there's a third or similar jump.

Often, when you have a smooth motif with one steeper jump, it's been done to set you up for a similar motif one scale degree above or below the one you just played. And it's not just Baroque music. Similar fast patterns in pieces like Hungarian Dance No.5. Similar with Handel's Bourree from Water Music.

Allen Cole
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