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 Re: close-tipped mouthpiece recommendations
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2022-09-22 18:57

Is your air leak through the corners of your mouth or does the tone of the mouthpiece itself sound airy and breathy?

If it is just leaking at the corners, that could be a natural response to dropping from 1.04 mm to 1.00 mm. In that case, Behn's advice to imagine you are blowing through a narrow soda straw might help. You might learn to focus a narrower stream of air that the smaller facing can accept.

If the sound itself is airy, you might need a reed with a different cut of wood and with different blank thickness. With Vandorens, the least airy is the traditional blue box reed. The most airy might be the Rue 56..

If the sound is airy with all reeds, I would not buy the mouthpiece.

There really could be some value to trying cheap close facings first such as the Reserve X0 and the Vandoren M13. Using those, you could zero in on whether you have a problem with air leaking through your lips or whether the sound is airy and foggy because of the reed. Once you've worked out the answers to those questions and compensated to get better results, then might be the best time to advance to a higher priced mouthpiece like the Fobes 10K. That model has been out for what--maybe 4 or 5 years? It should not be turning green. By the way, there are two variants in the 10K--one is made of black rubber and the other is made of marbled blue rubber. The blue one has a slightly more resonant and projective sound to my ears--certainly not airy. Also, Fobes has probably tweaked later models of both types to make improvements. If this is one of the first ones, it would not have the later improvements.

Obviously though, the output you describe is superior to what the Hite was delivering. 1) It enabled you to handle a more "serious" strength of reed, 2.5 up from 1.5. 2) It voiced more easily over the break, and 3) It makes a soft entrance imperceptibly. This last feature is a sine qua non for orchestral players and shows the mouthpiece has some level of musical sophistication.

A green aged mouthpiece that has been tried innumerable times by multiple players ought to sell for well under half price. That's my two cents worth. I'd try an up to date tweaked one in both black and blue rubber directly from Fobes if I had to pay more. Did you check intonation with a tuner??

If you love the mouthpiece, ignore what I said and buy it.



Post Edited (2022-09-22 19:05)
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