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 Re: Trying to improve intonation
Author: Matt74 
Date:   2021-11-16 04:35

I don't worry too much about it. I just go for as close as possible to the tuner without driving myself nuts. I do take pains to hit the octaves dead on, and to check my overall pitch.

I would suggest that if you are playing with a drone that you skip the tuner, or only use the tuner to help when you aren't sure (like playing 2nds). Then use only your ear. The tuner will actually tell you to play out of tune with the drone, so you will either not trust your ears, or you will train your ear to hear unnatural intervals. Drones and tuners are for different purposes. I really like my metronome because the click is a "C". I use it to keep on pitch.

When I'm playing in a group it doesn't matter what the tuner says (unless it helps). You can be dead on and horribly out of tune. I look for what is most pretty, what matches the group, or what brings out the character of the chord the best.

I just commented on a terrible YouTube video that was a disaster of misinformation about music theory, history, and equal temperament. Temperaments are primarily a solution to the problem of how to tune a keyboard. The problem is that is if you tune it to sound great in one key, it's sounds bad in other keys. They're all compromises.

If you use just/meantone/etc. temperament it's no good because you will have to tune the key of D different than C, etc.

It's not as relevant to playing wind instruments because you can tune every key exactly the way you want. Also, it's virtually impossible to play in any given "temperament" because 1. other people are out of tune, and 2. you instinctively play purer intervals than would be calculated according to any given temperament. Some people may have pitch that good, but they're probably the ones playing out of tune with everyone else, and mad because everybody is "out of tune".

I actually think that equal temperament has messed with people's minds because I'm pretty sure that some people sing their intervals wrong, and will then blame you for tuning correctly. One guy I know is always slightly off on 4ths and 5ths and won't budge, so I have to sing bad intervals to be "in tune". I can only assume he's singing equally tempered intervals because he's a pianist.

- Matthew Simington


Post Edited (2021-11-16 04:44)

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