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 Re: A Controversial Subject
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2021-11-07 01:47

Dan:

I don't know my NYT login. I have read these articles in paper form as a subscriber. I don't remember them put do have a bit to the point, if not snide answer to their respective titles.

"To Make Orchestras More Diverse, End Blind Auditions."

Funny, I thought curtains were there to promote fairness. Still more, what makes people think that removing curtains will promote diversity if the auditioners have, express or unknown minority racial biases? And what if we can't yet find diversity of equal talent, not because race has anything to do with talent, but because race is a fair surrogate for opportunity, which is lacking, and which relates to talent?

Should we promote diversity over a pure talent metric? Is that fair/best/the right place? Is the job the place in the process to even the playing surface, or is it the opportunity that comes prior? How might a more talented player, whose devoted their life to their craft feel about getting bumped by a inferior player based on race? What might that do to orchestra's moral? How might the favored player feel knowing their skin color helped get them a job, fearing resentment?

"How to Bring Racial Equity to Auditions"

By bringing racial equity to musical opportunity....It is the only way IMHO that doesn't promote bad feelings.

Farabout: how cares

Musicians, minorities, society, non protect class individuals trying to make ends meet without such handouts, policy makers, academics, politicians, you name it.

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