Author: SecondTry
Date: 2021-10-03 02:32
seabreeze wrote:
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> The 32nd note passage does not contain any of the usual
> challenges that limit
> technique.
So true...and yet I flop: perhaps the true source of my frustration here.
> If this passage looks and feels formidable, it is
> likely that you are not practicing the right scale and arpeggio
> patterns in your daily routine.
I am @seabreeze, Baermann 3 in specific, but perhaps not at a comparable metronome rate to this passage, that would otherwise prepare me for it. I don't play my etudes slow (I also don't play them at 120), always going for accuracy over speed.
Funny, far more difficult arpeggios are under my fingers. I must have learned them when I still had brain cells!
Thanks for your further approach and etude resources.
brycon wrote:
> This diagnosis is far too nebulous. What exactly does "throwing
> me for a loop" mean?
I don't hit the right holes at the right times. Sometimes I throw in an accidental G3 . Sometimes I skip notes. It's like the passage is faster than my brain can process.
Are> you experiencing a mental block?
I think so. And I say this because taking the last measure is easier than the whole passage.
>Does your muscle memory not seem to work?
Yes.
> Are there unwanted grace notes between your thirty-second notes? (And if so, where?
Yes, like a occasionally discussed above , and missed notes otherwise desired too.
> Between the first and second pitch, second and third, etc.?)
>
The mistakes are in random places.
> Or, do you not yet possess the finger dexterity and facility to
> play a musical passage in thirty-second notes at this speed?
I can play accurately at this speed on easier and other arpeggios. Not that I consider this one hard.
One that comes to mind is in the first movement of Spohr's 1st https://youtu.be/Pmlit4IRFfo?t=271
Thanks for the rest of your thoughts. It's true, nobody but me is in my head.
Ken Lagace wrote:
> This works for me.
> Play the 32nd notes as fast as possible with a metronome and
> without any mistakes. Then mark down the mm speed.
> When you can play it three times in a row without mistakes at
> some tempo, add only one to the mm speed. Eg. mm 60 is now mm
> 61.
> Continue until you cannot play it three times without mistakes,
> then quit.
> Next practice, start at your last best speed and repeat the
> process and work daily until it is faster than your performance
> speed.
> For performance, play it slower than your best practice speed.
Okay Ken..this is what I've been doing. My question is, "what's your plan for me for integrating these 32nd notes, once at a particular metronome speed, into the rest of the passage that comes before?" When do I do it (the integration)?
Tom H wrote:
> Try practicing the last 4 notes of the run over & over (low
> D,B,A,F). Backwards & forwards, faster & faster but even each
> time. There is a tendency to add some "slop" (a C, a G, etc.)
> because you are going from a left hand only note to one that
> needs two more fingers going down-- but one from each hand (B).
> Then, 2 rh fingers down to go from A to F. Part of resolving
> this is mental and part is physical. It's something that's not
> really as easy as it looks.
>
>
> Post Edited (2021-10-03 01:42)
Thanks Tom. I am trying the single note integration but your thoughts on left/right hand coordination, also raised by @brycon is noted.
:)
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