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 Re: What was wrong with the Selmer 10G?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2021-09-14 17:43

ruben wrote:

> Question: How is the 10G different from a Buffet R13?
> What did Mr. Gilgiotti and Mönig do to the former's original
> R13?
>

I'm not altogether sure exactly what Moennig was doing that was carried into the 10G. I was a college student. The R13s I owned had been set up by Moennig, so I had nothing to compare them to, and I only knew that they played better after Moennig worked on them. To begin with, every pad sealed, which was not (I think still is not) the case with off-the-shelf Buffets. I know he did a good deal of tone hole undercutting to free up the response on specific notes. He reamed the barrels to form the reverse taper in the bore. The original 10G barrels were lined, although someone told me recently that later ones (later than mine) were not. The RH pinky keys (not AFAIK a Moennig innovation) are angled upward - I think that was one of Gigliotti's preferences that got included in the design.

Beyond that, someone with more technical knowledge would have to continue the comparison. There must have been a great many of Moennig's signature tweaks that were incorporated. Once Gigliotti started playing the 10G prototypes, he would put black tape over the Selmer logos. When they came on the market, Gigliotti became persona non grata in Moennig's shop. We all (including Gigliotti) had to find other repair shops.

The point was not to reimagine the R13 in concept, but to create one that incorporated all of the tweaks Moennig made for Gigliotti and others into an instrument that was leak-free, evenly responsive, in tune and ready to play right out of the factory. At the time that was a little revolutionary.

Karl

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