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 Re: Luyben Ligature with Legere European Signature: A GAME CHANGER
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2020-06-13 01:01

Holy smoke!


That would make two out of three that I have listed as no longer available. This makes it a moral imperative for you industrious and business types to fill the void. I guess the only downside is that a completely plastic ligature will never sell for huge money (no NASA grade cables, cocobolo plates imported from Brazil, or solid gold cryogenically frozen nodules).


Ah.......the instructions pertain to the Luyben instructions that are on the package. Believe it or not they actually say that if the ends (on the screw side of course) are more than 1/8" apart when already really tight using your fingers, you are suppose to take a pair of pliers and tighten it until it gets to that distance (!!!??!!!!). The idea is that the plastic will take on the shape of your mouthpiece and reed after three days of doing that every time you put your reed on.


Sorry, I had far more to say than what would have fit into one post that anyone would bother to read so I left it short and catered to those who buy the Luyben (with the odd instructions).


Also, there were folks on this Board from a post around 2010 who balked about how hard it was to turn the screws of the Luyben (even when not under any tension). Yes, the plastic threading is tight, but is much easier to use if you apply some key oil. Even the omni present stuff like water is fine, but I use Hetman's Medium weight key oil for general stuff (and the heavy weight for the actual keys themselves).


The rest of the "instructions" were about the moulding to your mouthpiece. For OUR purposes of the Legere plastic resonating much better with the plastic ligature, achieving the "form fit" is not that important, and is really not the point. That said, if you are one who has one from years ago, you'd have stretched it out to capacity with cane a long time ago and the thin Legeres (from top of reed bottom that is) would then be too small (given the same sized mouthpiece that is). Therefore you'd need to reinvest another $14.00.


Lastly, the Luyben seems to work best positioned HIGH, at the top line of ligature. When you get it, you'll see that the part that hold the reed extends slightly above the rest of the ligature. It's ok to place that on the line of ligature rather than the bands that wrap around the mouthpiece.



Sorry for the confusion..........but you see how long this is getting.





................Paul Aviles



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