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 Re: Do I need a shorter barrel?
Author: m1964 
Date:   2019-08-20 02:09

kdk wrote:

.>
> There's really only one way to find out. Assuming it isn't your
> primary A clarinet, use it at home during practice and see what
> happens over a week or two.


> I'd suspect that, even if the pitch comes up as you play on it,
> you may still want the flexibility of having a shorter barrel
> available, so I don't think that would be a bad investment.


> I'm inclined to agree with Paul that a 1 mm difference isn't
> going to move the overall pitch as much as 10 cents, so you'd
> have to cut a barrel down in any case if playing on the
> clarinet doesn't bring the pitch up. I just wouldn't cut the
> only barrel I own for the clarinet, especially if it's the
> original barrel. Buy a 64mm barrel, and if it doesn't do the
> job, have that cut further. The repair person who does the
> cutting might have an opinion about how much.
>
> The pitch that results from pairing a specific barrel to a
> specific clarinet depends on both the length and the shape of
> the bore. You probably should stick to barrels with a Moennig
> taper and that are marked for A clarinet. Also, look to see if
> the barrel you have goes all the way down to the shoulder of
> the top joint - the end of the tenon. If it wasn't the original
> barrel, it's possible (though you probably would have noticed)
> that the barrel can't go all the way in because the socket is
> too short for the tenon, which might affect the pitch.
>
> Karl

Hello Paul and Karl,

Thanks a lot for quick response.

To Paul: The clarinet seems to be low about 10c when I play long C (the tuning note). The chalumeau G, F#, F and E are even a little lower, but the clarion notes are mostly in tune. When I say "in tune", I mean that they all are about 10c low.

When I bought this clarinet, the long C was about -20c, but the long B was -10c.
I was able to raise the pitch of long C by raising the E/B cap. I suspected that low E/B cup was affecting the tuning so I first took the E/B key off and checked- the "C" tuning went up to -10c.

After that, I did some adjustments on the E/B key and the foot of F/A key in order to raise the E/B cap and have both E/B and F/C keys closing properly.

To Karl: I absolutely agree with you that I would not want to cut the only barrel I got. The barrel does go all the way in, it is stamped "P13 A 65mm" which stands for Prestige A barrel.

I also have a Chadash barrel for an A clarinet but that one also is 65mm barrel. I have to try that one yet. Since the Chadash barrel looks almost new I do not want to cut it.

I can get a new 64mm R13 Prestige barrel, but I do not want to get a new barrel and have to cut it.

If the 64mm barrel would not bring the tuning up by 10c, then I'd rather buy a used R13 A barrel and cut it.

I am puzzled why this Prestige is so low in the first placeā€¦


I am going to speak to my tech, who did some undercutting on my Bb clarinet to bring those chalumeau E, F and G in tune. I hoped that he could do the same with this A clarinet.

I do like the sound of this Prestige better than the sound of RC I had before (which I traded in for this one). The RC sounded OK but lacked the ring/color. My wife (who plays viola) also noted improvement in the sound.

BTW, I play 2.5 Steuer reeds, but I do not think the reeds are the problem here since my A RC and both Bb clarinet are in tune, even with a 1-2 mm to spare.

Anyway, thanks for your help.



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