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Author: Dan Shusta
Date: 2017-10-08 04:10
Chris P,
I'm pretty sure you've mentioned this before. However, in all of my research, I cannot find anything which specifically states that Bakelite is phenolic resin. (Maybe it's interpreted indirectly, however, chemistry was not my best subject in H.S.)
From the following BB thread, it appears that others also believed that older "plastic" clarinets were made of Bakelite.
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=415817&t=415749
When I looked up "phenolic resin and asbestos" using a general Google search I got the following:
"Prior to the mid 1980s, a large percentage of phenolic plastic molding compounds contained asbestos. Asbestos is known to cause mesothelioma, lung cancer and other asbestos-related diseases. Phenolic plastic (phenol-aldehyde resin) is considered to be the foundation of the plastic molding industry."
This following thread almost makes "molded asbestos" sound basically safe (IMO) because the plastic prevents the asbestos from becoming airborne.
https://www.asbestos.com/products/general/plastics.php
However, when the older phenolic resin (pre-1980) is drilled, sanded, or broken, asbestos dust can be released.
Reso-Tone and Resonite are not actual names of plastic. I could not find any specific chemical formulations. However, if they are older than 1980, from what I know now, I would personally stay away from them. Especially older plastic mouthpieces. They can be refaced, however, specific techniques are required to prevent dust from spewing into the air.
The 1980 U.S. law severely limiting the use of asbestos is strictly for the U.S. China, IMO, operates under its own rules and regulations. They are, of course, not subject to our manufacturing laws.
All items listed as being made from Bakelite on Amazon or that well know auction site list China specifically as the manufacturing point of origination.
This has been an enlightening thread for me. From what I've learned, I wouldn't buy anything specifically listed as being made from Bakelite coming from that country in the Far East...and...I think I've lost interested in any plastic clarinet made here in the U.S. prior to 1980. These are just my opinions.
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