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Re: Cleveland orchestra principal or did we miss something

Author: echi85
Date: 2017-03-30 20:51

While I agree with everyone's sentiments, I do think it's important to keep in mind that this is the Cleveland Orchestra we are talking about. The person filling the chair will shape how that orchestra is thought of for decades to come. I don't think anyone is saying that people are not capable of doing the job, they just need to find a unique musician who can play in the style of that specific wind section.

Tenure is a tricky thing for principal players. In many CBAs, the final decision is in the hands of the music director. I've heard of situations in which the entire audition committee voted to give a player tenure only for the person to be denied by the music director. I've also heard of the exact opposite happening. Usually these things are purely professional decisions, although sometimes it does get personal. For example, I find this current story very interesting to follow:

http://www.ibj.com/articles/63062-musician-accuses-conductor-urbanski-iso-of-age-discrimination

I do think more orchestras should have auditions like the MET Orchestra does. They always hire someone and if they don't like them, they don't give them tenure but at least someone is given a chance.

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