Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Previous Message  |  Next Message 
 Re: Tongue Position
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2016-02-09 06:56

Well, I understand about holding the volume constant and reducing the aperture you push a fluid (air or water) through. I also understand that Bernoulli's principle says (in part) the speed of air over the convex surface of an airplane's wing moves faster than the air under its flat surface. But whether the air speed is significantly - meaningfully - faster over a raised tongue than it is over a flattened one isn't necessarily clear to me. The eventual aperture is the same.

I think you're closer to the point when you say that focusing your air at the tip of the mouthpiece is what's important. That's still more of a mental image than an objectively provable phenomenon, but it's intuitively hard to argue that funneling the air directly into the mouthpiece aperture isn't more efficient than having quantities of the air bouncing off other surfaces and rummaging around the inside of your mouth.

To be honest, I use Bernoulli to explain to students why they're producing tubby, unfocused sounds by over-relying on stretching their "throats" open to make the sound full. But I preface it by saying, "the theory is," and not presenting it as scientific, verifiable fact. When the sound improves because they've allowed their tongues to come to a more neutral (or slightly raised) position that's more relaxed and less rigid, the explanation then becomes superfluous. The result is convincing enough.

Karl

 Reply To Message  |  Avail. Forums  |  Flat View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 

 Topics Author  Date
 Tongue Position  new
Agomongo 2016-02-08 04:51 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
bmcgar 2016-02-08 05:03 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Agomongo 2016-02-08 05:07 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
bmcgar 2016-02-08 05:12 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Agomongo 2016-02-08 05:20 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Tony Pay 2016-02-08 05:06 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
locke9342 2016-02-08 05:28 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
sfalexi 2016-02-08 07:48 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
kdk 2016-02-08 08:15 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
gwie 2016-02-08 09:15 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Philip Caron 2016-02-08 09:23 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Paul Aviles 2016-02-08 14:51 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
fernie51296 2016-02-08 20:04 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
kdk 2016-02-08 22:04 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Paul Aviles 2016-02-09 05:58 
 Re: Tongue Position  
kdk 2016-02-09 06:56 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
jonok 2016-02-09 07:41 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
Paul Aviles 2016-02-09 08:37 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
kdk 2016-02-09 18:56 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
kdk 2016-02-09 19:40 
 Re: Tongue Position  new
TomS 2016-02-10 06:03 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org