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 Re: Klose turn
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2015-09-18 23:26

Wes wrote:

> In the "Vade-Mecum du Clarinettiste by Paul Jeanjean, the VI
> etude has several downward karats where no breath is needed,
> with the indication "Separez sans respirer", (separate without
> breathing). These are also phrasing marks.

Well, we never came up with a certain reading of these marks in the Klose duets, but the ones in the Vade-Mecum aren't the same thing (I included a graphic of the Klose marks in my first post). Jeanjean definitely means those carats to be phrasing marks. The ones in the Klose duets make little or no sense as places to separate (phrase), unless he means to re-articulate the first note of the turn itself under the slur mark that covers the two beats of the figure. I suppose that's possible, although it would be non-standard as both notation and execution of conventional turns.

Karl

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