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 Re: Reed brands and models
Author: fskelley 
Date:   2014-04-14 18:07

Indeed that's what the video shows, which makes a lot more sense to me. And I still find huge variation in the Vandorens, and it seems greater than a 1/2 step range within the group (though maybe it isn't).

Part of the problem most certainly is that one kind of stiffness measurement cannot quantify a reed's strength- at minimum you'd need 3 or 4. I ran into this myself back during all those months of Legere boiling water dipping when I tried to correlate dip time and temperature vs stiffness with my own deflection/force rig. I could nail precisely a target force value (for a fixed deflection- measured from a reed I liked) and still not get the desired playing strength on another reed. And believe me I tried a lot of variations of my methods. If I had ever made it work consistently the result would have been 1) a protocol I'd have established for the rest of my playing life, and 2) a thorough writeup I would have "published" as a resource for others. As it was, I ended up so frustrated I abandoned the whole project and even deleted all my Excel notes.

So on further reflection, perhaps some mfg have found the density measurement to correlate better with players' evaluation of strength than one direct stiffness measurement. In which case, I apologize for my snide remarks. Is the right answer a machine that blows a series of notes and measures back pressure? ...on a dry reed? ...not yet broken in?

Stan in Orlando

EWI 4000S with modifications

Post Edited (2014-04-14 18:09)
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