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 Re: Reed brands and models
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2014-04-12 18:03

Quote:
Bruno wrote:

> Or buy one box of one strength higher than you play and plan on
> scraping every reed. Like; you play threes; buy a box of 3.5's.
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Stan wrote:
That's what I used to think. Then I read that all strengths are machined to same thickness/profile and the strength diffs are due to reed material being stiffer or more flexible (density variations?). Which is to say that a higher strength reed thinned out to a lower strength can never behave the same as a reed that began at the lower strength. You might like it, but then you'd need to make all future ones the same way- you couldn't expect to then buy a lower strength and get the same thing.
And anyway, reed profiles (some anyway) seem so oddball and proprietary that I figure however you "fix" a reed you lose what the mfg intended. So you want to do as little fiddling as possible. IE, figure out the right # and buy it. Agree or not?

Stan in Orlando
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Stan;
Didn't notice your question at the end. (Getting old).
I never heard that all strengths are machined to the same dimensions, and I'm not sure I believe it. For that to be true the only factor determining a reed's stiffness would be the piece of cane used in its production.

It's my impression that stiffness variations within the same strength number are due to the varying densities of the cane but I don't believe that's the only factor.

I think that some cane resists machining more than other cane, and that tool bits become dull pretty quickly on cane. (cane is sort of sandy-textured, isn't it? It's the reason that we can use a piece of rush to sand down a too-thick reed tip. (I like Scotch-Brite, however.)
It's sort of like working with teak, which is full of silica and dulls tools rapidly.)

As I'm sure you know, the density of the reed material can be ascertained by holding reeds up to the light to see how far down the vamp the core seems to extend. Doing this tells me what to expect even before I blow the reed. If one side of the tip is thicker it will be evident also.

I agree with you about fiddling with the reed often making it worse, but I studied sax with a Manhattan School of Music guy who began most of our lessons with scraping reeds and I got into the habit.

And because this thread is about reed selection I'd like to say that I never seem to be disappointed with reeds from the Argentine and from Spain. They're all a little stiff, but as you say, determine the right # and buy it.

bruno>



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