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 Re: support for classical music
Author: Barry Vincent 
Date:   2013-12-02 21:22

Hi Brycon. What you are saying is basically correct.
Even so, I recommend that you read Pleasants book , even , as you say correctly , that it's out of date somewhat. But his general conclusions are spot on even today as noted in the dwindling audience numbers. It's most likely to be found in your local library. So you may not even have to buy it.
Yes, it's a very controversial book and really gets up some peoples 'noses'

Quote :- "Were Josquin, Monteverdi, Bach, Haydn, etc "putting out their hands for grants" because they "could not support themselves with their music?"
Actually I thought they were employed by their Patrons. Or were they sponsored , or both ? And if they produced music that was not appreciated by said Patrons , they would have been told to go do something else. Or am I being to too simplistic here.

Quote :- "Thirdly, a number of modernist composers have become mainstays of the concert and opera hall. The operas of Debussy, Strauss, Berg, Shostakovitch, Corigliano, Benjamin, and Ades, for example, usually do quite well in terms of drawing an audience".
That is also correct. However , when it comes to the Symphonies , Concertos , Essays ect of composers such as Berg, Corigliano and Ades ect , what the programmers of these concerts do , as I have noted, is to put a composer such a Beethoven at the beginning of the concert, and say Brahms at the end of it. That's to make sure that the concert 'draws' an audience as you say, and then stays till the end. Tne modern piece or pieces are positioned in the middle. The programmers wouldn't dare organise a complete concert just featuring such modern day 'Serious' composers because there'd be no audience. Or once again, am I being too simplistic.

Skyfacer

Post Edited (2013-12-02 22:00)

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