Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Previous Message  |  Next Message 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2009-11-09 01:03

Well as one final foot note to the bells up idea I want to say this. I just finished doing three performances of Mahlers 4th and we, as well as the oboes, do bells up when the music asks. The reason we bend out necks is because we don't play like I believe the clarinet players did in the days of Mahler. That is we keep the clarinets much closer in to our body than they did then, perhaps some still play that way in Germany, I'm not sure. So if we were to simply hold the clarinet straight out, sort of Benny Goodman style, I think we would get a more unpleasant effect than even Mahler had in mind. While I was playing a passage with my bell up I began to think this. Since the tone actually comes out of the tone holes and not the bell, especially the notes in the left hand that are mostly used for bells up, the altissimo register notes, the sound is actually going up to the ceiling not out to the conductor and the concert hall. Those tone holes are now facing up instead of out in the direction of the audience. I don't mind doing bells up, I think it's kind of cool actually, but one again I must say that I can more readily do what I think Mahler wanted but keeping my instrument if my regular position. By the way, in those tutti passages the flutes, bassoons, english horn and bass clarinet keep their instruments in their regular position for obvious reasons. There is one neat place in the 4th symphony that the 2nd and 3rd clarinets do bells up in a solo duet for a few bars, I think that's neat but I could get the same effect by not putting my bell up. It does look cool though to the people in the balcony. Of course those on the level floor have no idea we're playing "bells up". OK, that's a long foot note but I'm through with this posting. I say, glasses up at this point. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

 Reply To Message  |  Avail. Forums  |  Flat View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 

 Topics Author  Date
 Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
elmo lewis 2009-11-06 19:11 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2009-11-06 20:19 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Ed Palanker 2009-11-06 21:21 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Liquorice 2009-11-06 21:33 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Bennett 2009-11-06 23:41 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
lrooff 2009-11-07 00:03 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Gregory Smith 2009-11-27 02:20 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
kdk 2009-11-27 06:59 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
mrn 2009-11-07 01:52 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Ed Palanker 2009-11-07 03:45 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Liquorice 2009-11-07 07:31 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2009-11-07 13:51 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
kdk 2009-11-07 14:21 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
kdk 2009-11-07 14:37 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Ed Palanker 2009-11-07 15:03 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Liquorice 2009-11-07 15:23 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
mrn 2009-11-07 19:09 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
cigleris 2009-11-07 20:22 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2009-11-07 20:44 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Noqu 2009-11-08 11:57 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Ed Palanker 2009-11-08 14:45 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
srattle 2009-11-08 16:58 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Liquorice 2009-11-08 17:23 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  
Ed Palanker 2009-11-09 01:03 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Nessie1 2014-11-13 21:35 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
mrn 2009-11-09 04:09 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2009-11-09 14:53 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Ed Palanker 2009-11-27 14:56 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2009-11-27 15:05 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
John Peacock 2014-11-14 00:42 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
concertmaster3 2014-11-14 03:05 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2014-11-14 06:21 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Nessie1 2014-11-14 13:12 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
HANGARDUDE 2014-11-16 16:01 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
kdk 2014-11-16 19:29 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Luuk 2014-11-17 15:22 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Tony Pay 2014-11-18 00:01 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
lenc 2014-11-19 01:10 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
Chris P 2014-11-19 21:53 
 Re: Kind of dumb Mahler question  new
lenc 2014-11-20 23:21 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org