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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2009-03-11 00:58
The Web Site of Emma Johnson , the internationally acclaimed, solo clarinetist, has been basically replaced with a new and more complete version. All her recordings from 1985 to date are listed together with a couple of videos and a number of audio samples. A detailed biography and some critical articles are included. Anyone interested in the comtemporary clarinet scene shouldn't miss it.
I suppose she and Gervase are the current leading exponents of the English school of clarinet playing. Sometimes she finishes off a phrase with a vibrato that is quite ravishing. For a look click;
http://www.emmajohnson.co.uk/recordings.html
Gervase is still performing at 80 years plus...hope Emma with be too!
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-11 13:21
This version of her website has been around since late last year so nothing new here.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2009-03-11 13:28
Nothing like a little cold water from Iceland Clarinet!
(ba-dum, tish!)
New to me since I hadn't seen it before!
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-11 18:18
Honestly Old Geezer,
Emma Johnson is not quite at the forefront of British clarinet playing. Gervase, however much I love his recordings, is getting past it now. For great players in the British mold you should really check out:
Richard Hosford, principal, BBC Symphony Orchestra
Bob Hill, principal, London Philharmonic Orchestra
Tony Lamb, principal, English National Opera.
These are my idols
Peter Cigleris
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Author: weberfan
Date: 2009-03-11 19:58
Peter,
In your view, where does Robert Plane fit into the British clarinet firmament? I've heard him on a few recordings. Sounded fine. I've not heard the others, though I know of Hosford.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-11 20:06
Weberfan,
Bob Plane is wonderful. I have a few of his recordings also. He's a really nice chap to talk with. He is a Buffet player and my comment was relating to the British Tradition (wide bore clarinets etc). That's not to say that Bob isn't a part of it. He is principal with the BBC Symphony Orchestra of Wales.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: weberfan
Date: 2009-03-11 21:23
Peter...very helpful. thanks so much. I suppose what struck me about Plane's playing is that it did NOT sound like Emma Johnson's, for example. And you've helped explain why.
He is featured on two recordings I have, one of which includes Charles Villiers Stanford's clarinet concerto. The other CD is of his trio, playing Bruch.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2009-03-11 22:27
Is it really possible to sell over a quarter million clarinet CDs and not be at the forefront of British clarinet playing.... These CDs are purchased mainly by people who play, love, and understad what good clarinet playing is.; so please let's not hear that canard about popularity equaling mediocrity!
I'm not sure there is such a thing as unrequited talent. The indviduals you mention might be very fine performers but Emma makes international tours and performs as solist with major orchestras all over the continent. Surely if your favorites were great players they would be widely noticed.
Of course it's often a matter of taste. Personally I don't care for the wide bore sound I'm just saying Emma and Gervase exempify it these days. As an 80 year old clarinetist myself, I think Gervase is performing just fine!
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-11 23:11
Old Geezer shall I bring up the discussion on Acker Bilk ? Emma Johnson fits fairly well into that discussion too.
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Author: mrn
Date: 2009-03-11 23:12
cigleris wrote:
> Bob Plane is wonderful.
He is. I have his Finzi Concerto recording, which is quite nice.
Alan Hacker also made a very nice recording of Finzi (the first recording of that piece I ever heard). The two clarinetists do have slightly different styles, though. Hacker applies a somewhat reedier tone and a slightly "wilder" style to that piece, which seems to work really well (at least for Finzi--I haven't heard any of his other recordings). I wonder what kind of instrument he plays on (when he's not playing on period instruments, that is).
As for Emma Johnson, I have to admit that her style is not exactly my cup of tea, either. It just seems out of place to me, like she tries to imitate the Marcel Mule saxophone style on clarinet, or something like that.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-12 00:39
Old Geezer wrote:
"The indviduals you mention might be very fine performers but Emma makes international tours and performs as solist with major orchestras all over the continent. Surely if your favorites were great players they would be widely noticed."
But these players do make international tours and do play with major orchestras as both members and as soloists.
You should check out Richard's recordings with the Chamber Orchestra of Europe (one of the finest Chamber Orchestras in the World) of the Mozart, Copland concerti and the Strauss Duett Concertino. Also his many chamber music recordings with groups like The Nash Ensemble and Les Arts Florissant (sp).
Bob has recorded all the major wind quintets with the Mike Thompson wind Quintet as well as performing several concertos including the Tomasi which you may or may not know.
Just because Emma did all that doesn't mean that she is a "leading exponent" of British clarinet playing.
Please listen outside the box. I, as a clarinet player have taken the time to listen to players who are not 'big names' all over the World including players in the US. Quite frankly, some of the players clarinettists rave about in the US I find technically accomplished but extremely dull musically, but hey I suppose that's the system there. I also had the same experience with certain European players that I've heard and met and worked with who were supposed to the best thing since sliced bread, yet they couldn't string a phrase together.
Each to there own I suppose and apologies for the mini rant. I love you all.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-12 01:36
What a boring place the world would be if we all liked the same things.
I know what I like and I know what I don't like. One size doesn't fit all. You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people all of the time. Etc. etc.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2009-03-12 04:03
You've just got to love what Emma has done for a Cadenza in one of her Crusell concetos. WOW, 5-pages or what? Certainly not in the regimin of Quantz --"anything you can do in one breath."
She captures the essence of the movement and embellishes it, comes back to themes and takes off again.
DIG IT.
Bob Phillips
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Author: mrn
Date: 2009-03-12 05:16
cigleris wrote:
<<Quite frankly, some of the players clarinettists rave about in the US I find technically accomplished but extremely dull musically>>
Me too, and you can rest assured I am not the only one on this side of the Atlantic who feels that way, either.
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-03-12 11:38
This reminds me of the Thurston v Kell argument. Two very different sounding players, one of whom made little headway in solo recording, the other who became the leading popular solo clarinet player of his day. Most British clarinet players however viewed Thurston as the great player, the leading player, and the true exponent of what British playing was. But Kell set more of the agenda. British players now play in a way you can link to Kell (Emma Johnson being an example). It is difficult to hear anything of Thurston in modern British players.
Like it or not, Emma Johnson has a massive profile. The excellent players Peter mentions do not have that, brilliant as they aret. That's the way it is.
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2009-03-12 13:50
graham wrote:
> Like it or not, Emma Johnson has a massive profile. The
> excellent players Peter mentions do not have that, brilliant as
> they aret. That's the way it is.
As has been said before (in so many words) profile does not necessarily equal quality. Even if it did, we are all entitle to our own opinions and tastes.
Personally, I think Emma Johnson plays with a lot of personality and I picked her out as the winner of Young Musician all those years ago after a few seconds of her performance in the woodwind final but I don't like her very quirky vibrato-y tone and I'm not sure I go along with enormous cadenzas etc.
The players Peter mentioned (Lamb, Hill, Hosford) may not have achieved the same profile as Emma Johnson has for all sorts of reasons - quite likely because they did not want to - but that does not mean that they aren't good players or ones which some may prefer to Johnson.
Vanessa.
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Author: salzo
Date: 2009-03-12 15:40
Ohh boy. Emma Johnson a great clarinet player? Better get your ears checked.
Gervase Depeyer? He sounds like he is playing a broken clarinet.
The only good clarinetist to come off that soggy island was Jack Brymer.
The sound most of those brits get on the clarinet-might as well play a kazoo.
And notwithstanding Emmas illustrious solo career, she is awful. The fact she has such a career only indicates she is a good businessMAN who happens to play (actually "have" would be better) a clarinet.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2009-03-12 15:42
Cigleris wrote; ..."some of the players clarinettists rave about in the US I find technically accomplished but extremely dull musically"
Who are these "dull musically" clarinetists, Peter. Some of us might like a chance to defend them or perhaps agree with you. It's OK to mention names, fair minded criticisim and opinions are always of interest to professionals.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-12 15:52
salzo - what other British clarinettists can you name?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-12 17:09
Slazo wrote:
"The only good clarinetist to come off that soggy island was Jack Brymer.
The sound most of those brits get on the clarinet-might as well play a kazoo"
Who the hell do you think you are saying a comment like that?? Have you heard me? I most certainly don't sound like a 'kazoo'. Perhaps you should check out the recordings on my Myspace page as well as listening to other players before making rather rash statements.
Old Geezer, I'm not in the habit of 'naming and shaming' collegues as a matter of professional etiquette.
Peter Cigleris
Post Edited (2009-03-12 17:42)
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2009-03-12 17:23
salzo, I don't care who you are but I find your post extremely offensive and embarrassing. I'm assuming you're an American by your displayed email address, and if you are, then it is people such as yourself who make Americans despised in many parts of the world. I sincerely hope you go away and never return to this BB or anywhere else in the musical universe.
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2009-03-12 18:53
A fine musician and a beautiful person.
richard smith
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-12 18:58
David there are indeed like in Europe some clarinetist that are to me very dull to me but many people rave about. Do everybody like Lang Lang for example?
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Author: beejay
Date: 2009-03-12 19:23
I like Emma Johnson. I like her style. I like the fact that she searches out a wide and enjoyable repertoire.
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Author: donald
Date: 2009-03-12 20:01
But.. but... can someone post a photo of her, is she good looking?
(a sarcastic reference to another recent post... I actually have quite some respect for EJ, for a number of reasons that I won't go into, despite the fact that she plays in a style that I don't choose to emulate)
Post Edited (2009-03-13 19:48)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2009-03-12 20:25
I like Emma's playing and she's still as cute as a bug's ear.
Bob Draznik
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Author: beejay
Date: 2009-03-12 20:35
Moderator,
You can emasculate this post as well if you like. I'm fed up with people like Iceland Clarinet who parade their prejudices instead of a modicum of reasonable analysis.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2009-03-12 21:25
Do a Google image search and you find dozens of Emma photos.
I've noticed what when ever Emma's playing in mentioned in a positive light it brings out a lot of spiteful comments from a lot of guys on this BB!
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2009-03-12 21:36
Cigleris wrote;..."I'm not in the habit of 'naming and shaming' collegues as a matter of professional etiquette."
You say they play so well but won't name them otherwise they'll be shamed!?! If you name them maybe we''ll check them out and find that they really are "great" or not.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-12 21:56
Old Geezer,
'Name and shame' is just a figure of speech.
I will not be drawn into a 'slanging' match with regards to the playing of one professional over another for the delights of people like you. I have my opinions as I'm sure people do about me, but, I do have professional respect for them, as I hope, people do about me.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Danny Boy
Date: 2009-03-12 23:00
Old Geezer your posts aren't even following each other - you asked Peter to name the players he finds musically dull, not those he rates (and I point out, he's already suggested three extremely fine players for you to listen to...) which would be effectively 'naming and shaming' them and he quite rightly refuses.
There is nothing spiteful in not liking the way that someone plays. There are countless other clarinettists I would listen to before Emma Johnson - I've had several interesting conversations with her in the past and even took a lesson from her when I was much younger and hunting for a teacher to have at the time. Having been out there and experienced others' playing, I am another who suggests that there are other Brits at the forefront of British clarinet playing.
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Author: salzo
Date: 2009-03-12 23:54
Who the hell do you think you are saying a comment like that?? Have you heard me? I most certainly don't sound like a 'kazoo'. Perhaps you should check out the recordings on my Myspace page as well as listening to other players before making rather rash statements.
No, I have not heard you, but have heard others.
Perhaps you could provide a link to some of your playing-would love to hear it.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 00:00
Ermmm... he already has.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-13 00:10
If anyone is interested we could start a list where we share our professional top 5 favorite clarinetist and bottom 5 clarinetis ? I'm not afraid to do it.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2009-03-13 00:12
Iceland clarinet wrote:
> If anyone is interested we could start a list where we share
> our professional top 5 favorite clarinetist and bottom 5
> clarinetis ? I'm not afraid to do it.
You've already done that, as have many before. Not again.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-13 00:41
Salzo,
Just google me, also you can find me on Myspace.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: clarinetguy ★2017
Date: 2009-03-13 00:46
I've been a clarinet player since the early 60s and have degrees in music education, but I've never really been a serious performer. Here's my view for whatever it's worth. I know that some of you will agree, but others will think I'm full of it.
I'm going to go out on a limb, and classify "serious" clarinet players into two groups (although I know it really isn't quite that simple). The first group plays on a hard-blowing setup and does everything possible to get the darkest sound. These players do well in orchestras, but they are not always real successful in solo careers. To the average listener they sound good, but it sometimes appears that their playing is a physical struggle. Without mentioning names, I studied once with someone who is this type of player. He had a successful career in a university, but I never thought he connected with an audience very well.
The second group isn't always as concerned about a dark sound. To them, the ideal is free, effortless playing. Some might disagree, but I'd put Emma Johnson, David Shifrin, and Richard Stoltzman into this group. I've only heard Shrifin live once, and that was many years ago, but this is the impression I got when I heard him. When I've seen Stoltzman and Johnson perform (although I've only seen Johnson on videos), it appears that playing is effortless for them. It looks like they're having a good time and really enjoying it. They have that quality that makes them connect with an audience. And yes, I do enjoy Emma Johnson's playing!
Post Edited (2009-03-13 01:46)
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Author: salzo
Date: 2009-03-13 02:06
salzo, I don't care who you are but I find your post extremely offensive and embarrassing. I'm assuming you're an American by your displayed email address, and if you are, then it is people such as yourself who make Americans despised in many parts of the world.
Oh wonderful- a self hating american.
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Author: salzo
Date: 2009-03-13 02:34
cigleris wrote: "Quite frankly, some of the players clarinettists rave about in the US I find technically accomplished but extremely dull musically, but hey I suppose that's the system there."
I do not know which players you are writing about, but my guess is it is not the players who are dull, but the listener.
I had a conversation with Gervase DePeyer (The prince of the ridiculous English "school" of clarinet torture) many years back and he expressed the same silly sentiment as you.
It seems to me that for some reason, many English clarinetists do not hear tonal beauty, phrasing, musicianship, CONTROL, SUBTLETY-for those who enjoy the english playing, they couldnt be bothered having to pay attention, and be drawn in to great playing- They much prefer be hit over the head with a BIZARRE sound, smeared notes, sloppy technique(which they try to sell as being "musical"), really bad intonation, and a flabby nasally tone- throw a little dancing into that muck, even better.
I couldnt be bothered listening to any more english players. I listened to my share many years ago-when I was in college, we would sit around, putting Emma, Gervase, Reggie, THea, and a bunch of others, and we would laugh our ares off! It was a lot of fun! I would listen to those circus performers, and after EVERYONE of them I would say to myself, "GEEZ THEY MUST BE DRUNK!"
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2009-03-13 03:18
"I'm assuming you're an American by your displayed email address, and if you are, then it is people such as yourself who make Americans despised in many parts of the world.
Oh wonderful- a self hating american."
No, I don't think he's self-hating. He's aiming that emotion at the effects of your ignorant remarks and right at you.
It is typical ego-centrism which makes you unable to appreciate something that you dislike, and it is your personal classlessness that precludes you from holding your tongue.
James
1st generation America
Gnothi Seauton
Post Edited (2009-03-13 03:44)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-03-13 04:01
[ To all - Let's get back to the original thread topic, without the personal (and impersonal) comments about other's opinions...GBK ]
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-03-13 07:53
Well, for overseas listeners, the only clearly available window on a national style is the leading soloistic recording performers, and you cannot blame them if that is what they perceive as the classic representation. When I was a kid in the 70s, the only US player I knew was David Glazer, because Turnabout distributed in the UK. Glazer's recordings were cheap, and they were good. I did not then know about Harold Wright, but now I do (but only just, because he was never promoted here).
That said, a large number of British players are well recorded: King, Pay, Hilton, Puddy, and then there is the "British School", even if not British, such as David Campbell. All these are sufficiently available to act as a counterbalance to the view that Emma Johnson IS the British style exponent.
The only additional point is that Gervase de Peyer has not represented mainstream British style at least since the mid 1970s, so bringing him up does seem a bit out of date.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 11:40
Other British clarinettists of worth are Andrew Marriner and Michael Collins, and more recently there's Julian Bliss.
Made me laugh when someone on here said a few years back that Michael Collins is 'an American-sounding Brit'. Still does!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-03-13 11:57
Yes, and if you include Alan Hacker, who is superb but a bit out of the ordinary, it only goes to emphasise the sheer diversity of British playing. And then there is original instrument playing (Pay/Lawson). All of this is available on solo recordings.
No need to refer back three decades or to see one current player as representing the entire genre.
Nothing against Emma Johnson in this.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2009-03-13 12:18
To add something constructive to the conversation:
In my hometown we actually have an excellent chamber music festival in the fall <www.cvillechambermusic.org> and for the past number of years Matthew Hunt, of the Ensemble 360 has performed to high acclaim. Matt is an excellent clarinetist and performer, and I have greatly enjoyed his appearances here.
I would recommend him to anyone as a worth their $$, and another opportunity to hear a fine British clarinetist.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-13 12:52
Salzo wrote:
"I do not know which players you are writing about, but my guess is it is not the players who are dull, but the listener."
I don't think so honestly. If your having a pop at me don't bother as I know what I'm listening to and talking about, you clearly don't.
Graham, I totally agree with everything you said. I don't have anything against Emma Johnson either, infact I have at least one CD of hers. The whole point of this discussion was that Old Geezer's sweeping statement that she is a "leading exponent" is not quite true.
Thanks GBK for your post reminding us not to deviate.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2009-03-13 14:30
Cigleris has been contributing some interesting posts here.
Check out his Web Site...he's obviously an outstanding young musican on the way up and his trio seems outstanding too!
http://www.canteloubetrio.com/gallery.htm
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2009-03-13 14:39
In some way this conversation is reassuring to me. It shows, if anything, that there still are different schools of playing. We should all be very happy about it.
I am quite glad of the existence of a British sound, and although I must admit that it took me a while to get used to this particular concept of tone, the musicianship of some of the players there is outstanding.
I am much more sad about the fact that when I listen to players from all over the world whether live or on recordings, I hear a definite homogeneization of the concept of sound and phrasing. Heck these days I'd be hard pressed to hear the difference between a german and a french clarinetist. Weren't they archenemies of the clarinet?
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 14:55
Just for the record - not all British players play 1010s, not all British players use vibrato and not all British players wear bowler hats, carry umbrellas, live in London or the Home Counties or drive Morris Minors and speak with received pronunciation.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-03-13 15:26
Chris P wrote:
> Just for the record - not all British players play 1010s, not
> all British players use vibrato and not all British players
> wear bowler hats, carry umbrellas, live in London or the Home
> Counties or drive Morris Minors and speak with received
> pronunciation.
<tries to imagine Emma in a deerstalker hat>
--
Ben
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2009-03-13 15:54
Chris P,
You crack me up.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 15:57
Careful now, you need to maintain the Great British 'stiff upper lip'!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Gobboboy
Date: 2009-03-13 16:01
Right then......apart from (in no particular order) Richard Hosford, Andrew Marriner, Gervase de Peyer, Thea King, Robert Hill, Tony Lamb, David Campbell, Michael Collins, Roger Heaton, Michael Wight, Alan Hacker, Tony Pay, Reginald Kell, Frederick Thurston, Julian Bliss, Robert Plane, Jack Brymer, Keith Puddy ......and Emma Johnson.......what did the Romans do for us? I mean British...
what a great thread!
B
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 16:04
Who was the Scouse lad that won the BBC Young Musician the other year?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 17:22
Thanks - I couldn't for the life of me remember his name (apologies if he's reading this).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-13 18:48
Don't know who this is but I got an email from DRBRAINGOLD@aol.com
"Why don't you and your clarinet take a nice voyage on an ice flow?!
A LONG voyage!"
Well if people can't insult me right here on the Board then I should no matter how helpful it can be take my email off my profile.
Well I would sure invite this guy with me on that voyage just to see how nice person he is.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-03-13 18:52
> Don't know who this is but I got an email from (...)
How typically male - fight over a woman... ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
(no, this wasn't directed at anyone specifically)
--
Ben
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Author: salzo
Date: 2009-03-13 21:48
From Tobin:
"It is typical ego-centrism which makes you unable to appreciate something that you dislike",
No, it is that I have good taste in clarinet playing.
You know, Dogs will walk right past a filet mignon, and instead eat a turd.
I do not like turds, never have. A filet mignon, well that is certainly good eats.
The fact that a dog enjoys eating turds, and I have no appreciation for something so vile, does not make me egocentric-only an insane person would try to appreciate a turd, or at a minimum, someone who for some bizarre reason enjoys turds more than filet mignon.
If for some reason someone is so dense that they actually enjoy the English circus clowns, and actually BELIEVE them to be just another alternative to REAL clarinet playing. well that is just fine- the fact that I will not ingest such garbage, or sink to the level of those who think such garbage is good is not ego centrism-it just means I can recogniza a turd when I see it (or hear it).
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Author: beejay
Date: 2009-03-13 22:10
Since you brought the subject up, Iceland Clarinet, I'd like to say how much I agree with Drbraingold. Why? Well, you said in response to Old Geezer, "shall I bring up the discussion on Acker Bilk ? Emma Johnson fits fairly well into that discussion too." Since you evidently don't like Acker Bilk either, I take your comment not only as a gratuitous insult to a fine artist (who seems to be a lot more successful than you) but also to those of us who rather like her style -- not to speak of fans of Acker Bilk, who are as entitled to their taste as you are to yours. If you are willing to put forward a logical and reasoned argument about Ms. Johnson or Mr. Bilk, I'm willing to take you on, and I think there will be many others who will join me.
As for you Mr. Salzo, when and if you learn that music is about humanity as well as about notes, then we might be able to have a reasoned discussion with you as well.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-13 22:27
Well at least you can say it here out front and not in a email where nobody else can see it. But I never said that it's not ok to like Emma Johnson or Acker Bilk or any other player. All I meant was that no matter how many people like this or that artist and how many records they sell it doesn't tell us if they are good or not. Maybe many musicians are among those that keep up her popularity and maybe not. I like other players better and that's it.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-03-13 22:34
salzo, stop wanking and tell us WHO you actually like.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Gobboboy
Date: 2009-03-13 22:41
This is hilarious!!
Salzo, you are insane! do you have a CD out? I'd pay money for it. Honestly.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2009-03-13 22:43
When you people tell Salzo that he is insane or even just respond to him then you are no better than him.
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Author: donald
Date: 2009-03-13 22:50
you guys have way too much time on your hands!
Post Edited (2009-03-13 22:51)
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Author: beejay
Date: 2009-03-13 22:52
"I like other players better and that's it."
So that's your argument is it, Iceland clarinet? You've smeared Emma Johnson and those who admire her with the accusation of being secret Acker Bilkists, and in the end it all comes down to a question of taste. Namely your taste, which is probably no better than my taste or anyone else's on this bulletin board.
It doesn't say much for intellectual rigor in Iceland, does it?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-03-13 22:52
[ We've now had about enough.
Unless there is something very important which needs to be said, this thread is closed.
Just remember, for future discussions, as we've said many times before: The clarinet world is a lot smaller than you may realize. - GBK ]
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