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 Beethoven 8 3rd mvt solo - piano subitos
Author: Alexis 
Date:   2006-12-30 06:49

For those who know this solo (the trio of the 3rd mvt):

Are the piano subito's absolutely essential? And if so, why?

The Hadcock book has them in as editorial additions, and I understand that this may just reflect the way they are usually performed. There seem to be a lot of other instances in Beethoven where a crescendo is followed by a subito piano - I know Daniel Barenboim in particular speaks a lot about this in his conversations with Edward Said.

But I have been playing this excerpt the same way for about 3 years now, and it occurred to me today that it doesn't make much sense to me played like that. Is it possible that Beethoven just forgot to mark in the diminuendos and assumed the performer would interpolate them?

I have to admit I haven't listened to recordings with this in mind recently - just picked up the excerpt again today.

Thoughts?



Post Edited (2006-12-30 07:08)

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