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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2005-11-16 11:39
OK, I'm a maestro! But it wasn't difficult. Now, who knows what the final piece by Ravel is?
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2005-11-16 11:56
String Quartet in F.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-16 12:19
9/10 - it was that poxy opera one I didn't get, just as well as I can't stand Italian opera.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-11-16 15:03
Missed the one on what instrument plays the Rhapsody in Blue opening.
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-11-16 16:46
Scored 9 out of 10, bad point was actually for English : don't really know this stuff like quaver notes etc...
Ralp_G, honestly think you only needed about 5ms to know it (I clocked at 4.99ms)
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Author: Joel K.
Date: 2005-11-16 17:05
9 out of 10. I'm crotchety now because I don't know a crotchet from a semi-quaver (well - I guess now I know that it's a quarter note).
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2005-11-16 18:11
Got 'em all...somehow some of the British terminology penetrated my musical upbringing...
Katrina
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2005-11-16 18:38
6 out of 10, but I had no speakers/phones available when I took the test. ;-)
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Ben
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-16 19:22
British terminology of note lenghs (and description of the shapes):
Lunga - 4x whole note - 16 quarter notes long (hollow rectangle with stem),
Breve - double whole note - 8 quarter notes long (hollow rectangle),
Semibreve - whole note (hollow oval),
Minim - half note (hollow oval with stem),
Crotchet - quarter note (solid oval with stem),
Quaver - eighth note (as above with one tail),
Semiquaver - 16th note (with two tails),
Demisemiquaver - 32th note (three tails),
Hemidemisemiquaver - 64th note (four tails).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2005-11-16 22:36)
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Author: ron b
Date: 2005-11-16 19:45
7/10 :|
tomorrow's another day 
- ron b -
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-11-16 20:05
Hemidemisemiquaver?
It's time for the EU to regulate musical notation nomenclature.
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-11-16 20:11
Probably was already done, but the Britisch got an exception ;-)
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Author: mkybrain
Date: 2005-11-16 20:16
9/10......im a complete idiot for missing the verdi
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2005-11-16 20:31
> It's time for the EU to regulate musical notation nomenclature.
Yep. I want a metric system. ;-)
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Ben
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-11-16 21:00
9/10. I was so stupid on that British note one because I didn't see the rest! I would've been a Maestro! Oh man!
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2005-11-16 23:01
Anyone spot the metrical mistake in question 3?
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"He's as effective as a catflap in an elephant house" - Edmund Blackadder
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Author: swkeess
Date: 2005-11-17 00:27
Doesn't this bar contain only 3 1/2 beats total? Therefore, if a crochet is one whole beat, then adding 1 crochet would be 1/2 beat too many in 4/4 time.
Susan Keess
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2005-11-17 01:51
Quarter rest + Dotted Quarter Note + Eight Note + x = 4 beats
What is x?
The quarter rest = 1 beat
The quarter note = 1 beat
The dot equals half the value of the quarter note = 1/2 Beat
The eighth note = 1/2 beat
1+1+.5+.5+x=4
3+x=4
-3+3+x=4+-3
x=1
1 = quarter note
x = quarter note
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2005-11-17 01:52
I love equations :op
-Piko
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2005-11-17 03:16
Yes, yes, I know. But what I mean is, it's unconventional in 4/4 time to have a dotted crotchet (dotted quarter) starting on beat 2. It would be more usual to have a quarter note on beat 2 tied to the first of a pair of eighths on beat 3.
Unconventional, but not unheard of, I admit. In more modern music it would indicate an irregular pulse. For example, 2 + 3 + 3. But in regular 4-in-a-bar, it would not be written as in the quiz.
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"He's as effective as a catflap in an elephant house." - Edmund Blackadder
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2005-11-17 03:53
I was introduced to the hemidemisemiquaver terminology by Guy Woolfenden (cool guy) during our Wind Symphony's trip to England. In the same rehearsal, he (as guest conductor) had commented on how Americans tend to use longer words (measure vs. bar, elevator vs. lift).
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2005-11-17 04:20
8/10...I need to learn my british terminology. I didn't know the opera, either.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2005-11-17 05:01
7/10
Didn't get the Verdi opera right, had no idea what minim, crotchet or quaver mean, and didn't know what rallentando mean [haven't played classical music for over 4 years, and when I did, I only saw rittenuto and ritardando (sorry for bad spelling) for slowing].
Who is Les Dawson?
Post Edited (2005-11-17 05:11)
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2005-11-17 05:54
Well I have to admit I got the crochet thing wrong myself. Should have known though... I remember the Barret studies having all those odd names in an outline. I always thought it was just old verbage.
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Author: bawa
Date: 2005-11-17 06:15
Hey,
I was feeling really bad as a complete non-musician for scoring only 7/10...until i saw the scores of some the excellent clarinet players on the forum.
Hey, I thought the Rigoletto was one the easiest, but each to its own.
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Author: christian_comeau
Date: 2005-11-17 11:56
9/10
I missed the "crotchet" one, but except that one... I tought it was fairly easy for musicians...
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2005-11-17 14:00
10/10, an' I'm no' e'en Bri'ish!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-17 14:04
The late Les Dawson was a British comedian that was famous for mother-in-law jokes and also famous for playing the piano badly - hitting the odd 'accidental' for comic effect.
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2005-11-17 14:42
8/10. Would have been 9 had I stopped to think that I knew a quaver was an eighth note. Or I could have worked backwards from my knowledge that a hemidemisemiquaver is a 64th note.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-11-17 14:57
I read that as "Len" Dawson, which made me think, "What does the former Kansas City Chiefs quarterback have to do with a music quiz?"
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-17 16:11
OI Gordon!
I don' drop tha' many consonan's, jus' pu' in loadsa glo(tt)al stops instead!
But not as much as Geordies do - they even drop the initial consonants of some words as well.
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Author: Grant
Date: 2005-11-17 16:13
I got 9 of 10. What is British for a 128th note and 256th note?
I messed up on my British. Too much Scotch I quess.
Peace on Earth and May You always have a reed that PLAYS.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-17 16:22
I think a 128th note is a Semihemidemisemiquaver, and a 256th note is then a Demisemihemidemisemiquaver.
Ridiculous isn't it? I usually forget the names and just say 'a hollow one with a stem' or just make the shape with my fingers and say 'one of those ones' when referring to a minim.
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Author: CJB
Date: 2005-11-17 16:31
Life would be so much less colourful without the hemidemisemiquaver.
As to anything faster I haven't a clue. I think there is some convention to do with adding in additional hemi demi and semi terms but can't really remember. I can't recall ever seeing any in an actual piece of music and needing to refer to that sort of passage as anything other than 'the black bit'.
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-11-17 16:48
Amazing , 400 years before the first computer, musicans already discovered the 'binary system' ;-)
Helps me a lot at daily work, I actually sing my programs...
Post Edited (2005-11-17 16:49)
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2005-11-17 21:40
1/64, 1/128, 1/256......
When it comes to these small fractions your American engineers resort to metrics... "thou" (-sandths of an inch). The scientist eventually give in, and dispense with the inches altogether, going fully metric with "microns".
Therefore it is quite legit to introduce the terms milliquaver, microquaver, picoquaver. The music is so fast that rounding off to multiples of 10 will never be noticed. :-)
Actually, "hemidemisemi quaver" has the same number of syllables as "one hundred and twenty eighth note", and a lot fewer letters, and if FAR more fun to say!
Could anybody write a song about that? Ha!
:-)
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2005-11-17 22:02
Intresting thing to note is that in the Barret book that there isn't a hemidemisemi quaver, but a semidemisemi quaver. The semidemisemi gets repeated a few times so I don't think it's a typo... did the semidemisemi get changed to a hemidemisemi over time?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-17 23:20
I've only seen them called 'semidemisemiquavers' once - I don't remember which dictionary that was in, but I've heard them called 'hemi~s' more often.
Maybe 'hemi' is used to make a clearer definition than using 'semi' again.
I dunno.
I've only seen them in highly ornamented Baroque adagios, and lunga and breve notes also in Renaissance and Baroque music.
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2005-11-18 15:22
We have :
dubbele hele noot
hele noot
halve noot
vierde noot
achtste noot
zestiende noot
tweeendertigste noot
vierenzestigste noot
honderdachtentwintigste noot
to hear how it is pronounced call me or OpusII, with slightly different accent I guess ;-)
Post Edited (2005-11-18 15:22)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2005-11-18 15:54
Though in the UK we pronounce 'breve' (and 'semibreve') as it conforms to the usual rule where the final 'e' modifies or lengthens the previous vowel sound in the word - giving 'breev' (or how Cockneys say 'breathe'), and not the Italian pronunciation as on the musicdictionary site.
The South-of-London accent is strong here on the south coast - and I used to substitute 'v' or 'f' instead of 'th' (as in 'bovver' - 'bother' or 'fink' - 'think') - though that all changed when they all took the pee when I moved to Canada, and the correct way of saying 'th' has now stuck.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-11-18 18:00
belgian clarinet -
are those top fermented trappist beers?
Personally, I like a nice warm Duvel
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2005-11-18 20:36
This discussion reminds me of the time Bruce Willis's ex-wife was filming a movie where she played the female driver of an 18-wheeler. Because a stock diesel engine wouldn't put up with the rigors of the stunts they were going to put the truck through, they had replaced it with one from a Dodge Ram. Ms. Moore claimed that every time she heard the rumble of that engine, it caused her to tremble--a jittering that quickly became known around the movie set as a hemi-semi Demi quaver.
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Author: ClariBone
Date: 2005-11-18 23:50
I scored a 10!!! Guessed on the crotchet one though...
Clayton
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-11-19 02:16
Don,
that joke, though long in set up, was just fan-tasse-tic!
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Author: Asheeka
Date: 2005-11-19 02:47
10/10 it was easy!
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Author: sylvangale
Date: 2005-11-19 05:14
lol, good one Don.
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2005-11-19 10:32
Off the topic, but I can answer Don's pun. Stop me if you've heard this one...
Mahatma Gandhi always walked barefoot, which gave him calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him frail. His diet caused bad breath.
In a nutshell, he was...
A super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
Tish-boom!
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"Racket? Racket?! That's Brahms! Brahms' Third Racket." - Basil Fawlty
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-11-19 23:34
For #6, my money is on Drucker NYPO for that recording of the Gershwin with Bernstein directing.
Anyone else hear that?
((just checked it - it isn't))
hopefully, football tomorrow will do better...... 
Post Edited (2005-11-19 23:47)
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