The Fingering Forum
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Author: sÖmeone
Date: 2003-02-02 07:59
i know a lot you are doublers
does all of you face huge problems when previously trying to become doublers?
what are the circumstances?
will it affect your playing ability on your previous instrument?
what are the advices for an oboe and clarinet doubler?
i previously play clarinet for 3 years and started oboe for about half a year now and there seems to be no problem at all but i would like to know the fallbacks.....thnx
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Author: Benny B
Date: 2003-02-02 14:37
getting better at clarinet improved my technique at tenor sax. Clarinet as 1st instrument
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Author: TorusTubarius
Date: 2003-02-02 15:40
I've had to double on oboe and saxophone before, and I found that it was much easier to go from oboe to saxophone than from saxophone back to oboe. I think it's mainly because of the difference in size between the two mouthpieces, and because the emboucures for each are so dissimilar. Not to mention the fact that oboe is much harder to play.
If I seriously had to double on both regularly (which thank God I don't), I would practice each instrument separately, with some time in between. Then <i>maybe</i> a few days before whatever performance I was doubling in, I would work on one and then immediately switch just to get used to it. But for regular practicing, and especially for oboe players, I <i>do not</i> recommend switching back and forth. This will confuse your emboucure so badly you won't be able to form a proper one for either instrument.
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Author: beckee
Date: 2003-02-02 16:23
I play oboe as my 1st instrument in county orchestra and alto sax in jazz band. the only thing i find hard is the small changes in fingerings, eg c's on both or f/f#. I don't have any problem with the emboucures.
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Author: Mort Rader
Date: 2003-03-30 07:06
I started out as an oboe player in grade school. Learned saxophone in high school. Added clarinet in college. Added flute in my early thirties. And I am still dabbling with bassoon.
If you must double on oboe, then take the attitude that you are going to make it your primary instrument because it is the most demanding when considering embrochure, breathing cycle, and reeds (you'll need to make your own). My own experience and that of my pro doubler friends has shown that if you can master the oboe, all of the other woodwinds will then seem to be very easy.
Flute, oboe, sax and bassoon over-blow and jump-up in pitch at an octave. Clarinet is the odd-ball -- it over-blows and jump-ups in pitch at a perfect 13th (an octave and a fifth).
Clarinet players usually have an easy time doubling on bassoon. The bassoon has some of the worst fingering combinations of any of the woodwinds in its highest octave range.
Flute, oboe and saxophone share many of the same fingerings.
People whose primary instrument is either flute or saxophone usually do not have very good success as doublers. Flute players usually have problems adapting to the other embrochures, having to put something inside their mouth, and the continual battle with reeds. Sax players have it so easy and have so many bad habits that trying to play another instrument is too much of a challenge.
Adding-on/playing saxophone is considered the easiest double. If you try adding sax as your first double and find it to be a difficult task, then doubling is probably not for you.
Many times the oboe parts in Broadway show books will require doubling on English Horn, Clarinet and/or Tenor Sax.
Flute parts may require Piccolo, Clarinet and/or Alto Sax. Clarinet parts may require Flute, Piccolo, Bass Clarinet, Alto Sax, Tenor Sax, or Bari Sax. Bassoon parts may require Clarinet, Bass Clarinet and/or Bari Sax.
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