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Author: BigChief44
Date: 2026-09-13 04:48
Anyone know anything about these oehler clarinets?
I've been looking to buy a budget oehler that I can service myself. Even willing to buy brand new if I end up flying to germany and try one out. I sold my uebel 632 and 682 years ago and regretted it dearly so I'm looking to get back into playing oehler system.
Does anyone have any recommendations for what to look out for on eBay or anything? Any brands/models that you guys think are good would be appreciated!
Note I play classical and jazz music and I live in Canada.
Here's the listing I was interested in on reverb which made me ask about this.
https://reverb.com/ca/item/85752302-a-cs-klingson-hammerdchmidt-sohne-burgau-schwaben-bb-oehler-sistem
Thanks for the help!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2026-09-13 16:47
It should be alright and not a bad price for an Oehler system. Obviously the low E and F may be on the normally flat side as it doesn't have the bell or low F vents, but that's something most Boehm systems are like anyway.
I had a cocobolo Hammerschmidt "Klingson" Boehm system with LH forked Eb/Bb and LH Ab/Eb lever around 20 years ago which was a decent player, except the C#/G# was a bit on the sharp side which a tonehole insert/bush (as you'd have on German/Oehlers) would have probably sorted out.
There's also Clemens Wurlitzer, older Fritz Wurlitzer, the older F.A.Uebels (as you've had), G.R.Uebel, Adler and Yamaha. I've got an old Richard Keilwerth Oehler system, but it's built to around 444Hz, so be cautious about the pitch - the Yamaha YCL-657-24 Oehler system I have is also built to around 442+Hz.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BigChief44
Date: 2026-09-13 23:08
Thanks for your detailed response! I've seen the Clemens everywhere and was interested if those are decent. I think the plan is to get a budget oehler for now and service it and in a few years maybe I'll fly to Germany so I can try stuff out and splurge on a dream one.
Thanks for the heads up about the Richard keilwerth oehler I didn't know they tuned that high. Do you reckon those brands you all named are all kinda similarly average players? I've only had experience with the really old uebels and I found those pretty good for what they were.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2026-09-14 17:17
I knew an East German clarinettist who played with us whilst living here in the UK and played Clemens Wurlitzers and he sounded great. He tried my Yamaha Oehler but the lower of the two top trill keys didn't do the same thing on the Yamaha as on his C.Wurlitzer, so that's a variable depending on the maker's preference as to what note or trill that key gives.
As for repair work, he'd send them back to C.Wurlitzer themselves for servicing, just as many oboe players send their instruments back to the factory for work as opposed to using a local repairer who may not be ideally kitted out to work on some makes and models.
I remember in the early '90s up at Bill Lewington's in London where they had a variety of East German makes including a set of C.Wurlitzer Oehler systems and also Markardt oboes and cors, plus various other instruments from the Markneukirchen area makers and a load of American instruments from UMI.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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