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Author: StefanPG
Date: 2024-12-03 23:45
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Hello everyone. I have a question about this part.
Is this a C2 flat also?
On youtube I heard some players play D flat…
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Author: kdk
Date: 2024-12-05 13:44
Do you mean in the Db7 arpeggio in the third stave down? I guess you can play either Cb or Db, but the Cb seems correct to me. It's the 7th of the chord. There's the argument that Messager (like some other French composers) tends not to carry accidentals over different octaves - in other places he re-marks them when the note occurs an octave lower or higher in the same measure. But then the question would be C-flat or C-natural, and C-flat seems to fit better. It seems as if D-flat is just a way of avoiding the problem.
Unhelpfully enough, the cadenza isn't written out at all in the piano part. Since it's completely unaccompanied, it doesn't seem to harm much if you play D-flat. But, IMO, C-flat seems fine and resolves more firmly to the B-flat in the Bb7 chord in the next bar. This could just be an editing error, but it doesn't seem to be earth-shattering either way.
Karl
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Author: Micke Isotalo ★2017
Date: 2024-12-05 14:20
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Do you mean the attached note (but as a 1/64, not a 1/32) - commonly known as Cb6, or in some countries as Ces'''?
Don't know if some other edition of this piece perhaps has an Db6 there instead (if that's what you mean), which in that case would of course be lot less fluent - especially with the standard fingering, but to some degree also with the alternate TR000f#|000-fingering.
Post Edited (2024-12-05 14:28)
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Author: kdk
Date: 2024-12-05 18:06
I took the OP to mean the one an octave lower in the same arpeggio, which is not marked with a flat sign. Making the one at the top of the arpeggio a Db would make that next C5 later in the arpeggio even more problematic - it should then be a C-natural, which sounds completely wrong.
Karl
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Author: Alexey
Date: 2024-12-05 19:12
I do believe notes are correct, it should be C2 flat and not D2 flat
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Author: Micke Isotalo ★2017
Date: 2024-12-09 01:09
Karl, you are probably right - that the OP meant the 3:rd last note of that arpeggio.
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