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Author: LGS316217
Date: 2020-06-06 18:45
Any users of the Rovner Dark out there who flip it to screws-on-reed? I love the focus my Rovner Dark gives my tone, but until now, had used standard metal screw-on-reed facing ligatures. I just can't get used to playing on the Rovner using the recommended screw-on-top positioning. The product literature says it's okay to use this ligature reversed. Seems to sound okay so far, anyone else have any feedback on using it this way?
Amy Paul
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2020-06-06 18:49
Yes.
I had a friend show me that method. It is very much the idea of the Eddie Daniels (or Versa) that has the metal plate but using it with the "flaps" over the plate.
You get a firmer sound with more focus than using the pouch.
Welcome to the abyss of ligature hell.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: kdk
Date: 2020-06-06 20:41
The main reason some players prefer a "reverse" ligature (screws on top) is to allow a closer angle between mouthpiece and chin. I haven't experimented enough with the Rovner Dark to know if I hear a difference *in sound* between reversed and non-reversed (standard? traditional?). But there could be a subtle difference in both sound and response if using it reversed led you to keep the instrument closer to your body.
You don't, of course, *have* to play with the clarinet more vertical when you put the screws on top. It only *allows* the closer angle.
Another thing that's possible, unlike a lot of ligatures, is that you can set it up to tighten the screw with either hand (from either side).
The Rovner Dark is designed to give you choices. Whatever way you prefer is fine irrespective of anyone else's opinion.
Karl
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Author: Bob Barnhart ★2017
Date: 2020-06-06 21:25
I’ve done this with both the Dark and Light ligatures and much prefer the results.
I find the the Dark rather “tight”, I.e., restrictive and perhaps too focused. Reversing the screw so the cylinders contact the reed in more of a “Bonade” fashion seems to free the sound up while maintaining a nice round quality. Same for the Light.
Note that the ligature placement in terms of where the cylinders contact the reed can affect the feel which may be a benefit or issue for some players.
Enjoy experimenting!
Bob Barnhart
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Author: donald
Date: 2020-06-07 01:46
I have a student who plays a Rovner with the screws on the reed, and she sounds fine. One advantage to playing with the "pouch" holding the reed is that this way the ligature conforms better to reeds with an uneven butt, but that doesn't really matter unless you are playing with a reed that has an uneven butt.
As a left hander I found the ability to change the screw around to the other side GREAT... over the years I have spent time with other ligatures, and can't remember which sides the screws are on any of them, it somehow became less important.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2020-06-07 17:07
I was Phil Rovners "guinea pig" for many years until he sold his company and I helped him promote his "new design" in his early days of production. It was funny the reactions we got from people when I'd sent them one back then. Comments like "it looks funny and that design can't possiibly work'. After a decade or so it became one of the most copied designs on the market as he sold hundreds of thousands. I still have a draw full of his "experiments" that never went into production as well as having given dozens away to students. I've used a modified version of the dark with the screws on the reed side that never went into production because he deemed it to expensive to manufacture at the time. One of the things we always agreed on and encouraged people was to experiment with was trying it with the screws reversed or on the reed or opposite side. Every ligature gives a different feel and effect for different players. So our advise was always, try it to see what you prefere.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Matt74
Date: 2020-06-08 08:08
I used to play a Rovner with the screw on the reed in HS and college, but I got so tired of strangers telling me I had it the wrong way around, that I gave it up and went back to normal. LOL
- Matthew Simington
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