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 Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: GBK 
Date:   2019-02-18 20:08

Michael Lowenstern's new video on the Don Quixote bass clarinet excerpts is going fine until his instrument breaks while playing. (6:45)

Yup ... it's the teflon pin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIRfGZsHjc


...GBK

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2019-02-18 20:39

Imagine if this happened during a concert and he didn't have a back-up bass.

And the reason I reinforce plastic pins with steel as a matter of course on all instruments fitted with them.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2019-02-18 20:59

Great stuff in there:

o How to play Don Quixote

o woodwindexcerpts.com

o totally stealth bass clarinet......... what is that?!!?




...................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Ed 
Date:   2019-02-18 22:42

Another option would be

https://www.clarinet-repairs.com/carbonfiberpins.html

The bass was specially made for him by Selmer

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2019-02-18 23:08

Thanks for the info Ed!


This is also the first I am seeing carbon fiber for such use. How are they for "clackiness?" Silencing was the reason nylon and teflon where engaged this way in the first place.




...............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2019-02-18 23:56
Attachment:  reinforcednylonpins.jpg (208k)

It's a lot of faffing around making carbon fibre pins when the easy and effective solution takes hardly any time to do.

Remove them, drill all the way though, fit steel core, trim to length, grind smooth, refit them, job done.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2019-02-19 00:00)

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2019-02-19 00:14

Chris,



And that way you have the best of both worlds, quieting the key action and having the strength to maintain play over time.





.................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2019-02-19 00:19

Chris,

What size pin and drill bit do you use? Also how do you make sure the hole is straight? I may try this with my Festival.

-Jdbassplayer

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2019-02-19 00:33

I use anything from 0.8mm to 1.0mm and a similar diameter needle spring or the nearest imperial size that's a tight fit.

Once you mount the pin in your bench motor chuck, use a countersink to centre drill the head, then use a twist drill to drill all the way through held in a pin vice or with pliers which will drill through and keep centred. You can see the drill going through the pin as it's translucent.

If it does wander off a bit but still remains within the pin, then that'll be fine.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2019-02-19 12:03

Just had two Selmer Privilege low C bass clarinets brought because they were dropped and among many problems, the plastic pins broke (all on one of them, a few on the other). FWIW, I only have Buffet ones in stock, so when I checked, they were too big. The Selmer actually uses smaller and more fragile pins. Buffet bass clarinets are far more popular here than Selmer, probably at least 10:1 if not more. In total I've seen at least as many broken Selmer bass clarinet pins as buffet pins.

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 Re: Michael Lowenstern's bass clarinet breaks during video
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2019-02-19 18:19

Buffet basses use much thicker nylon pins compared to the ones on their soprano clarinets. But even so, they still can do with reinforcing with a steel core.

Jupiter basses also use nylon pins in the LH levers - they do have links with Buffet, so that's not surprising.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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