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 purchasing a C clarinet
Author: eddyline 
Date:   2006-03-30 20:02

What do people have to say about the various C clarinets available, and which ones are better? I am interested in the hard rubber model called Arioso by Ridenour, though I'd like to know exactly who makes them; and I'd like to know what impression people have of the Buffet and other more expennsive models.



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-03-30 20:07

FWIW I ordered the plastic Amati. Will post more when it arrives.

--
Ben

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Merlin 
Date:   2006-03-30 20:53

I've played on the wooden Amati and the Arioso. I liked the response and sound on the Arioso, and it's hard to beat the price.



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: William 
Date:   2006-03-30 21:02

I have a Buffet E11 with a Chadash barrel and I am quite satisfied with sound and intonation. When I selected it, I also tried a Buffet Prestige C, but did not notice much (if any) improvement. And the E11 was soooo much more affordable. Cost me about $800 six years ago.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Carol Dutcher 
Date:   2006-03-30 21:23

I have a Noblet C Clarinet and I think it is great!

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2006-03-30 21:35

(Disclaimer - I am maker of the Forte' clarinets)
The Forte' C will be introduced in June - see previous threads for reviews.
L. Omar Henderson

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Pam H. 
Date:   2006-03-30 23:01

A good friend of mine has the Buffet E-11 and it quite satisfied with it. I've played his a little and found that it is better playing when warmed up.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Tom Puwalski 
Date:   2006-03-31 00:20

I'm playing a Buffet Rc prestige, it's made it's hodge to vancouver for the Full Morrie treatment. It's sports a tulip wood bell and a Cocobola Barrel. This horn plays and tunes wonderfully! I use when I'm playing Naftule Brandwein tunes in concert, he used the C more often than Tarras. I've also use it to play The Claude Bolling flute suite on clarinet and that sounds cool as hell!

Tom Puwalski, former soloist with the US Army Field Band, Clarinetist with
Lox&Vodka, and Author of "The Clarinetist's Guide to Klezmer"and most recently by the order of the wizard of Oz, for supreme intelligence, a Masters in Clarinet performance

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2006-03-31 00:30

I had a Noblet and sold it to a pro.
It was great, but I have something special pending. See the above by Omar


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2006-03-31 13:32

I've owned both Noblet and Patricola C clarinets. The Patricola with a Chadash barrel was the better of the two. I sold it in a financial pinch and wish I still had it. It had a wonderful tone and was high-quality craftsmanship.

I'm anticipating the Forte C being a good one (see Omar above--ditto Alseg).

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: redwine 
Date:   2006-04-01 19:36

Hello,

I've played the Forte C clarinet. It is the best C clarinet that I've ever played, hands down. Also, with the projected price, noone will be able to compete with this clarinet! I'm having a piece written for me that will be premiered at the Atlanta clarinet convention for C clarinet, just because this clarinet is so good.

Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-01 19:48

Availability (of the Forté C) in Europe? Tough call.

--
Ben

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-04-01 20:19

For 20 years I have used a silverplated R13 #282xxx (1986).

Aside from the typical tuning quirks found in C clarinets, it is an excellent instrument. Having a dedicated C clarinet mouthpiece and a 46mm Chadash C clarinet barrel made a big difference with the overall tuning.

A few months ago I was asked to test the new Forte C clarinet. My positive comments can be found in the archives...GBK

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2006-04-02 01:27

(Disclaimer - I am maker of the Forte' C)
The Forte' C will be available worldwide by mail, other than replacing cracked wood or supplying keys (available to technicians by mail) the rest of the clarinet is standard technican fixable and these former conditions are factory repair warranty work with any maker.
L. Omar Henderson

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Susan Eileen 
Date:   2006-04-02 05:31

What's a dedicated C clarinet mouthpiece? I use my B mouthpiece on my Pencil Mueller C clarinet

Susan

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-04-02 07:23

susanmarvin@peoplepc.com wrote:

> What's a dedicated C clarinet mouthpiece? I use my B
> mouthpiece on my Pencil Mueller C clarinet


There are some mouthpiece makers who produce a mouthpiece designed for the C clarinet...GBK

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Roger Aldridge 
Date:   2006-04-02 17:14

I've been reasonably happy with the Patricola C that I've had since 2002. It has a sweet warm sound and good intonation. The only thing that bothers me about the Patricola is its keywork doesn't have the rock solid feel that my vintage Bb clarinets have. That said, it's a big improvement over the other C clarinets in an under $2,000 price range that I tried.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Tom Puwalski 
Date:   2006-04-04 01:29

I have a few questions, Does the Forte C clarinet come with a Gennusa mouthpiece?
Doesn't Selmer make a pretty nice C clarinet? Is the Forte better than the Selmer?

Isn't Ben redwine a Selmer Artist? And a Forte suplier?
I think more disclosure would help. This is something Dr. Hederson is always gracious about.

I played a forte Bb clarinet a the Uof MD clarfest. It was a not as nice as my Yamaha Sevs,( Disclaimer:I am a Yamaha artist, and these horns have been seriously pimped) but I could have easily giged on it. That is a high compliment. If the Forte C plays as well, and is in a student price range, It could change my teaching pedagodgy. I think starting beginers on a good C would really boost learning curve.

Tom Puwalski, former soloist with the US Army Field Band, Clarinetist with Lox&Vodka, and Author of "The Clarinetist's Guide to Klezmer"and most recently by the order of the wizard of Oz, for supreme intelligence, a Masters in Clarinet performance

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: diz 
Date:   2006-04-04 01:52

Our great co-moderator once described the tone of the C clarinet as "being rather matter of fact" ... from memory.

Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2006-04-04 02:47

(Disclaimer- I am maker of the Forte' clarinet)
A few words of explanation - just the facts. Tom, thanks for the compliments on the Forte' Bb. As the advertising suggests it is designed for student to intermediate players and costs about 1/4 the price of the Yamaha SEV which is a very good professional level clarinet.

Ben Redwine is a friend but has no involvement or receives any compensation from the Forte' Instrument Group, LLC or Doctor's Products - LBD Corp. except that he sells my products and I sell his GE*S mouthpiece and have purchased them and provide them with the Forte' Bb clarinet.

Ben Redwine is a Selmer artist and Selmer Paris does sell a special order C clarinet for around $5000.00 I have no involvement with Conn-Selmer or Selmer Paris. Ben has been a tester for the Forte' C and I guess, from his comments, really likes it very much. We are providing no mouthpiece with the Forte' C but offer a Gennusa mouthpiece which has been optimized for the Forte' C as an additional accessory for a fee - the Forte' C was engineered to work with your normal Bb mouthpiece quite well. There is a review by GBK in the threads who is also an unpaid - but deeply appreciated critical tester of Forte' clarinets.

An advertisement for the Forte' C ran in the classified ads of the BB for over a month offering reservations - which closed 3/31/06 - with a deposit for a sale price of $729.00 for the silver keyed, grenadilla body Forte' C. You can check the prices of the closest competition - they are about double the Forte' C price. The Forte' C will be for sale in June and introduced at the Oklahoma Clarinet Symposium and at ClarinetFest 2006 in Atlanta.
L. Omar Henderson

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-04-04 03:20

[ At this point, any further specific questions about the Forte C clarinet should be addressed to Dr. Henderson off-line - GBK ]

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: DaveF 
Date:   2006-04-04 07:37

At a lower price ($400) is the Woodwind (WWandBW) C clarinet, that I very briefly tried last October when I was at the South Bend store buying a new Bb and A. Unfortunately, I had only one day there, and spent a long time playing a lot of instruments. However, their C clarinet is Chinese made, and despite it being labelled in their catalogue as plastic, the one I played I swear was not, and probably was hard rubber. (Perhaps I was fooled by plastic that somehow was finished to appear to be grenadilla?) I only tooted on it for a few minutes before moving on, but I thought it played well, although the throat tones were sharp, but that's probably typical. Anyone have one of these?

Dave F.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: eddyline 
Date:   2006-04-16 17:38

I just played my new Ridenour Arioso C clarinet for the first time. Excellent. a real bargain, but more important, a really capable musical instrument.

Now to get out those Mozart Violin Sonatas!

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-16 18:51

How much is the Ridenour Arioso C? I searched the web for quite a while but could not come up with a price. Must be a mighty confidential thing.
(The "complete ordering information" link on their web page apparently is an April joke, at least for overseas customers)

--
Ben

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: eddyline 
Date:   2006-04-16 19:27

Just send an email inquiry to

william ridenour <wthomasridenour@sbcglobal.net>

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-16 21:37

I sure could send emails around the globe (apparently a lot of other people do that too, according to my spambox) - I just wondered why one cannot publish a ballpark price for an instrument.
This usually happens only with extremely expensive items in a shopping window (here you are legally required to publish a legally binding price for each and every item in the window, except the aforementioned expensive jewellery), and in such cases I usually shrug and continue my shopping tour in a lesser part of the virtual mall.

Having to ask for a price contradicts my idea of window shopping, and more often than not I ended in some "mail'em every so often" address file, and that's usually what I want to avoid.

--
Ben

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: stevensfo 
Date:   2006-04-16 22:08

-- "Availability (of the Forté C) in Europe? Tough call." --

Hopefully never! In my experience, as soon as anything gets sold through a dealer in Europe it increases in price at an alarming rate.

Besides, what's wrong with simply buying it via mail order/internet from the US? I've been doing it for years.

Steve



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2006-04-16 22:37

(Disclaimer - I am maker of the Forte' Clarinet)
The Forte' Bb has found its way successfully to 11 countries so far by mail order.

I will not quote the price of the Arioso C clarinet but Tom makes one for Woodwind Brasswind under the name Allora which has a listed price of US $1195.

I tried out Tom's Arioso C clarinet at the Texas Music Educator's conference and found it to be a fine instrument and is made of hard rubber I believe. Interesting, it has a passive bell vent like the Forte' Bb and C clarinet. Tom was also very helpful with his wealth of instrument knowledge with a daunting problem that we were having with a simple and correct fix.
L. Omar Henderson

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-04-16 23:00

Besides, what's wrong with simply buying it via mail order/internet from the US? I've been doing it for years.

Mail order is fine if you never have to use the warranty. I once bought an item (not a clarinet) from over yonder and had a problem with it. I had the choice of throwing it away or sending it back for repair under warranty (at my own expense, nota bene). Well, 70$ for shipping (both ways) plus paying tax again (mfgr refused to sign a customs waiver) motivated me to have it repaired locally.

So, unless it's a bargain that justifies that risk, I shop locally.

--
Ben

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2006-04-16 23:12

(Disclaimer- I am maker of the Forte' clarinet)
Any warranty work on instruments usually requires that the instrument or part be sent to the manufacturer for repair or replacement and usually shipping cost to the manufacturer (and in some cases for the return trip) is from the buyer. Even registered dealers for a particular brand must send to the manufacturer for warranty work. Some good will gestures are often given to customers for minor repairs but this is not the norm for more expensive parts - e.g a cracked bell. If the instrument has standard basic parts many minor problems can be fixed by a local technician - e.g. pads, springs, screws, etc. which is cheaper usually than shipping for the manufacturer's "bumper to bumper" warranty plus a lot less time involved. If you live within country of the manufacturer that is a plus no doubt.
L. Omar Henderson



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: redwine 
Date:   2006-04-17 10:41

Hello,

I've been away in Spain having a much too short vacation (as well as some work, of course).

Sorry for the lateness of my reply.

I am indeed a Selmer artist. I do, however, believe that the Forte c clarinet is better than any other c clarinet I have tested.

I will not endorse a product simply because I have a business relationship with that company, unless it is the best! I can say that about my Selmer Recital b-flat and a clarinets, and my Selmer e-flat clarinet, but the Forte c clarinet wins in the c clarinet category.

I don't supply Forte clarinets. If anyone is interested in them, I pass them along to Dr. Henderson.

Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Jimpa 
Date:   2007-08-18 10:37

I've been playing a Noblet for a long time (on my second). How does the new Forte C compare?

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2007-08-18 16:11

(Disclaimer - I am seller of the Forte' Bb and C clarinets)
Use the search function for several reviews of the Forte' C clarinet.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: William 
Date:   2007-08-19 17:55

Do what most of the real pro's do--transpose. Advantages are: more consistant intonation, better sound (usually) and you save lots of $$'s for more expensive reed purchases.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2007-08-19 18:45

William wrote:

> and you save
> lots of $$'s for more expensive reed purchases.

?

I use a Bb mp on mine and the same kinds of reeds I'd use if I played a Bb.

Or, did you mean he'd have more $$ left over for more expensive reeds if he didn't buy a C? Sorry.

Steve Epstein

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: LarryBocaner 2017
Date:   2007-08-19 21:16


William wrote:

"Do what most of the real pro's do--transpose. Advantages are: more consistant intonation, better sound (usually) and you save lots of $$'s for more expensive reed purchases."

Speaking as a "real pro" -- or a retired one anyway -- I've owned and played a C clarinet for about 35 years; it's a Buffet I purchased used from a member of the "President's Own." It has always always been my credo as a professional musician that my first priority (oh, all right -- second to providing food and shelter for my family) has been to serve the ends of the genius composers who wrote the music I play. Therefor when a Strauss or Mahler writes notes for me to play on a clarinet in C when they could have just as easily have written them for a Bb or A (or even Eb) clarinet it is my sacred responsibility to recreate them in a manner as faithful to what they wrote as I possibly can.

You are quite right, William, that this is by no means the view of a large number of pro clarinetists; I attribute that to laziness, hidebound mentality or just plain frugality. C clarinets are commonly used (when indicated) by, I think, a majority of European symphony clarinetists and by an ever-growing number in the US.

Do Bb/A clarinets sound "better" that C clarinets? Well, they sound a little different -- have their own aesthetic. Do Stradivarius violins sound better than clarinets? Well, if cost is any indicator they must sound hundreds of percents "better" than clarinets; perhaps we ought to all play on old Italian violins no matter what the composers specify!

There are intonation issues with some C clarinets, due mainly, I think, to mismatched bores with many mouthpieces. I solved my problem with a Morgan (Bb) mouthpiece that tunes just fine with little effort on my Buffet (R13, I guess). When I used to play principal clarinet with the (now defunct) Washington Civic Opera, using the C clarinet for such operas as "Cenerentola" and "Barber of Seville", the other principal winds invariably would make a point of telling me what a pleasure it was to blend with the C clarinet.

Larry Bocaner
National Symphony Orchestra (retired)



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Jimpa 
Date:   2007-08-20 06:14

Dear Larry!
Thank you for your comment and experienced knowledge! I am just an interested amateur, retired since a few months. I play mostly folk music (Swedish, Irish...) and evergreens wth my little ensemble. I have found that a C-clarinet tends to blend in better with the singers than my B. Not to mention that most folk music over here (I live in Stockholm) runs in the keys of D-G-C (in that order) (I also play a "nyckelharpa" which is a Swedish keyed-fiddle -not a Stradivarius, I made it myself.)

As you mentioned, intonation varies with mouthpiece, as I've noticed. And experimented with different mouthpiece-barrel combinations.

I'm looking at picking up a Buffet Prestige in C and my question is whether it is worth the expense for an amateur, compared to the Noblet I play on now, or maybe a new Forte.

Thanks for your coments!

Jim

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Gertz 
Date:   2007-08-20 07:39

I'll echo that. I am a complete amateur as well, playing various kinds of folk music with a couple of friends - mostly Scandinavian, with an occasional klezmer or balkan tune thrown in every now and then. The C clarinet is just the right thing for that.

I play an old Albert system clarinet. I have never been able to get just that sound that I wanted with a Boehm, but this old no-name horn was right on. Intonation, on the other hand, was a bit of a challenge, but I tried Walter Grabner's "C-friendly" AW-PERS mouthpiece, and that made it work.



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: LarryBocaner 2017
Date:   2007-08-20 12:10

Jimpa and Gertz,

Thank you for your kind response to my post. I'm glad that you have found the C clarinet useful for your interesting genres, as I have for mine.

As to whether the Buffet Prestige is worth the investment over and above your Noblet, or whether a new Forte would fill the bill, I honestly cannot answer your question. If you are a collector who prides himself on owning the best of everything (as some of my non-pro friends here in Washington are) or if you just want a dependable good-playing instrument, that would seem to me to be the deciding factor. Perhaps some of the other posters on the BBoard could better advise you based on their own personal experience.



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Jimpa 
Date:   2007-08-20 14:22

Takk!
Where can I find such a mouthpiece?

Jim

Gertz wrote:

> I'll echo that. I am a complete amateur as well, playing
> various kinds of folk music with a couple of friends - mostly
> Scandinavian, with an occasional klezmer or balkan tune thrown
> in every now and then. The C clarinet is just the right thing
> for that.
>
> I play an old Albert system clarinet. I have never been able to
> get just that sound that I wanted with a Boehm, but this old
> no-name horn was right on. Intonation, on the other hand, was a
> bit of a challenge, but I tried Walter Grabner's "C-friendly"
> AW-PERS mouthpiece, and that made it work.
>

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: JJAlbrecht 
Date:   2007-08-20 15:40

Jimpa Wrote:

Takk!
Where can I find such a mouthpiece?

Jim

You can find these on Walter Grabner's site: http://www.clarinetxpress.com/Cstyle.html

Jeff

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2007-08-20 17:05

(Disclaimer - I am a maker of the Forte' C and sell Gennusa mouthpieces)
We offer a customized Gennusa mouthpiece with Forte' purchase at a discounted price. Ben Redwine will also make a custom "C" friendly mouthpiece if you find that your favorite Bb mouthpiece just does not work well with your "C" clarinet. From my own testing of the all of the available "C" clarinets on the market today (although I am obviously biased) the "C" clarinet can sound extremely sweet and mellow or harsh and shrill and the maker or cost is not always aligned with the tone. You should try out many and choose the one that works best for you.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod (which I hope will be working again soon)

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2007-08-21 03:46

Given the keys of much folk music, i.e., Irish and Scando, but not Balkan, if you want to go the transposition route you're better off with an A than a Bb. But there's just enough western European folk music in flat keys to require a Bb as well. Balkan music is different because they use horns, and I think the gaidas, kavals, and other ethnic instruments are keyed to flats, but there must be sharp keys as well, because they also use clarinets in C, A, and G. So, if you're using your horn for folk music, a C is most efficient, IMO.

FWIW, I've been playing a Patricola CL-7 for about seven years and I love it. I've also tried a Noblet and thought it was very good. I have an Amati as a back-up but find it shrill; there is, however, a guy who posts on this board who can do extensive work on those Amatis to make them professional quality, I understand. I've never tried the Forte. I've tried the Ridenour, and it isn't bad for what it is (an inexpensive horn), actually sounds sweeter than my Amati. I would imagine the R13C is the gold standard but I've never blown into one myself. There are a few other small manufacturers who make C's currently, I believe, and quite a few more vintage makes.

Steve Epstein

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Kalakos 
Date:   2007-08-21 04:15

I've been watching this thread for quite a while, but really didn't have much to add to the original question about C Boehm clarinets.
I felt I should add a bit after the last few posts about folk music. I'm a Greek folk musician and have played C Albert or simple system clarinets since 1963. There are good ones and not so good ones, I've noticed. My best ones are Buffets (favorite of all is from about 1880's), but Jean Martin and Ramponi and a few other no names have been decent. Borbeck Bb mouthpieces (#16 or #14) seem to work well; I also have two of Walter Grabner's "jazz" mpc's.
For folk music, do not be afraid to use the C clarinet. It works fine. The Greeks started to use the Bb's more sometime in the 1950's and 1960's so they could play easily in lower keys like Bb so the male singers didn't have to sing so high (in C major or D minor) and the clarinetists could play in their easier fingerings.
Have fun with a C clarinet.

John Pappas
Kalakos

Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: corno di caccia 
Date:   2007-08-22 15:16

I have found the c clarinet to be somewhat less than acceptable, specifically because it is rather shrill and causes an indifferent response. The eb clarinet has a specific timbre as of course,the Bb and A, the lower clarinets needing no discussion here.

I would reiterate the suggestion of transposition for any serious player, the dilletante may have a very legitimate use for the c.

Readership might inquire into the least expensive c clarinet made anywhere which produces a good sound, is self-reparable and literally indesctructable:
The Lyons C cclarinet made in the UK.

I received one while recuperating from an operation . It comes in a small bazooka-like case, and is all-inclusive. It plays really nicely, its parts list enclosed which can be replaced by anyone. Terrific idea for school, but it sounds really quite wonderful


There is a website, and Mr Lyons is quite responsive.

harold wrong

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Brenda 2017
Date:   2007-08-22 16:59

I have a rosewood Rossi C clarinet that I'm crazy about: it's a work of art and it has wonderful resonance! Whenever I've played it side by side with the Buffet Bb (in great shape by the way) people have always said that they prefer the sound of the piece I'd played on the C. I just didn't want to contribute this too early because this is the only C I have experience with. Perhaps as it gets used for opera perfomances then a couple of us will have more to say about this particular instrument.



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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Jimpa 
Date:   2007-08-22 17:20

Thanks for the input! It's always interesting to hear other player's experiences. This discusson lead me to (literally) dust off an Albert system Freres Martin I had in the closet and not touched for 25 years, although it was serviced just before being laid away. I tried it with a mouthpiece I had not used on it before ( a vanDoren 5RV) and...WOW! even after being unplayed for so long it really tickled my fingers with the resonance you ind in a good sounding horn...... I think it must be 100 years old, made at the time when te French could still plunder the rain forests. Not a crack in it.

Aren't instruments interesting?

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: corno di caccia 
Date:   2007-08-22 18:00

Well, at this point the raison d'etre of this venue comes into play: collecting horns, mouthpieces, reeds, setups, teachers, etc., all of which is fun and passes the time and is instructive to a point, so I say, why not? If you love to collect, touch and feel your clarinets, there is no law against it; it can however become costly.

harold wrong

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2007-08-22 18:59

I bought a plastic Amati in C to accompany my learning daughter on the piano (noble, innit?). In the meantime I found out that it has exactly that hint of brightness I was looking for when I play Klezmer.
And it feels so cute in the hands, especially after a stiff practicing session on Darth Tone (my alto).

--
Ben

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Ken Mills 
Date:   2007-08-22 21:18

The Selmer Standard C clarinet comes with the C85-120 mouthpiece with the 1.20mm facing, so it uses a soft reed. Yikes! How is that on a C clarinet? As their other clarinets it must be slightly higher pitched to accommodate the soft reed. That is for me, I use the Selmer CP100 mouthpiece that uses a Vandoren no. 2 reed in my attempt to get a full, moist, fat clarion register with rapid articulation easier to do.

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Gertz 
Date:   2007-08-22 21:20

Corno di caccia: My reason for playing a C clarinet is certainly not about collecting. On the contrary - as Steve Epstein said, it is the most efficient solution, given the various kinds of music I mostly play. One C works just as well for me than an A and a Bb, and that is certainly more efficient. The tone and response happens to be perfectly fine for my use. The one I have is brighter than a Bb, but certainly not shrill, and the response is just how I like it.

As for transposition - well, that certainly makes life easier for me when I have to look at some sheet music, but I often just play by the ear, and in that case, transposition is obviously not something to worry about ...

Jimpa: That definitely sounds like a nice, old thing you've got there ...

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 Re: purchasing a C clarinet
Author: Eric T 
Date:   2007-08-24 04:05

I ordered the Amati model 351 and the Ridenour "C" clarinet at the same time. after playing them both, I found the Amati to be much nicer. It is made of grenadilla wood rather than the hard rubber Ridenour model, it has silver plated keys, and had a much better tone. These are the only two I've played, but I really liked the Amati, and I bought it. The intonation is quite good, overall. The notes higher than A above the staff are a bit hard to control, but I suspect this may hold true for C clarinets in general. The price of the Amati ($500) makes it a great deal.

et

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