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Author: m1964
Date: 2026-02-19 20:58
Hello,
I am working on a Tosca in A. Taking lower joint sliver key (B/F#) out was difficult.
When removing the rod screw, the little projection that acts as a stop for the side Eb/Bb key, is in the way.
I finally managed to remove the key, but the the screw rod is still in the upper post and slightly sticking out.
I am not sure if I can put the key back with that screw sticking out from the post.
Should I remove the post for the 3-ring key?
Or, is there another way?
I do not like to bend the Eb/Bb support wire.
Thank you
***Forgot to attach pictures - there are in the second post.
Post Edited (2026-02-19 20:59)
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Author: m1964
Date: 2026-02-19 21:00
Attachment: IMG_0549.jpeg (1696k)
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Pictures of the "problem".
BTW, I tried removing the same screw on a brand new Tosca in Bb and there was the same problem. I did not need to do anything on that instrument, just wanted to check.
Thank you
Post Edited (2026-02-19 21:04)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2026-02-20 15:39
It's a bloody stupid design and an absolute nightmare. I end up removing the upper RH ring key pillar to remove that rod screw - pop the spring out and then unscrew the pillar locking screw and remove the pillar and you'll have a clear run. Yes it's a faff, but you're not going to damage anything in the process.
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Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
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Post Edited (2026-02-20 15:42)
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Author: m1964
Date: 2026-02-20 17:20
Chris,
THANKS!
Fully agree that it is a stupid design- to have the 3-ring spring and post removed to install another key. Can't understand why they could not place the wire 1mm above or below its current position.
Don't they get feedback from their dealers who repairs these instruments?
Thanks again
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2026-02-20 22:58
Thank you to Chris P. for his many valuable contributions to this group.
If anyone wants a rueful chuckle, copy the original question into Google's search box and read what their AI says.
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Author: &*b6IU
Date: 2026-02-21 01:07
you could try to slightly unscrew the post in which the rod is stuck to re-angle the rod to be able to take it out.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2026-02-21 01:32
You need to completely remove the cross B/F# key first to be able to do that, which you can't do as the rod screw is still in the end of the key barrel. Turning it anticlockwise with the key still in place will also risk damaging the pad, damaging the end of the key barrel or bending the screw.
Like Buffet in general, once they discover a bad design, they just carry on and run with it regardless. Other Buffet bad designs include nylon pins, that F#/C# spring, those stupid point screws with the plastic collar combined with the correspondingly deeply countersunk pillar heads, fitting adjustable thumbrest bases in the same place as the fixed ones, the LH F/C linkage adjusting screw, extra sharp tonehole crowns, Gore-tex pads, peel'n'stick synthetic key 'corks', wavy tenon slots, cases where the bells remain on the lower joint tenon, a million pro level clarinets in their lineup, ...
Feel free to add more.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
Independent Woodwind Repairer
Single and Double Reed Specialist
Oboes, Clarinets and Saxes
NOT A MEMBER OF N.A.M.I.R.
The opinions I express are my own.
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