 The Clarinet BBoard
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2017-05-13 00:41
Kindly confirm for me that the last few notes in the section of this piece that's played alone, without accompaniment, right before the ending 3 trills is (in 8th notes):
F, G, Ab, Bb, C, C#, D, Eb
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I ask because that C#, at least in my copy, seems to have more of an asterisk looking character before the note, than a sharp or flat accidental.
It's really small on my copy for these tired eyes to read.
Thank you
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Author: GBK
Date: 2017-05-13 01:07
F, G, Ab, Bb, C, C#, D, Eb is correct.
...GBK
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2017-05-13 20:42
Thank you both.
Funny when you blow up a smaller image of an accidental--as I tried--that looks like an asterisk, you get an.........asterisk. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
So thanks Dr. Nichols for that awesome link....
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Author: ClarinetRobt
Date: 2017-05-17 18:04
LoL...Dave it almost sounds like Mr McGill had a 'oops' moment. Like he almost had a slight hesitation. I suspect I'm looking too much into it. It's nice to know the best of the best are still human too.
~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)
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Author: kdk
Date: 2017-05-20 16:57
WhitePlainsDave wrote:
> And Frost agrees with the "skipping notes school of thought" as
> does the immediately prior poster....
>
I'm not sure where this is. Have you skipped from the end of the cadenza into the coda section with all the notes in it?
Karl
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2017-05-22 16:26
It is the ascending 8th notes at the end of the piece's Cadenza, just before the three trills.
As per the link above, that's 4 minutes and 6 seconds into the piece. The link will take you right there: to that point in the work.
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Author: brycon
Date: 2017-05-23 01:58
Quote:
It is the ascending 8th notes at the end of the piece's Cadenza, just before the three trills.
Yeah, but where are the skipped notes?
Martin treats the F as the end of the previous arpeggio (Bb7 with a suspension). But the F's still there. The Hungarian dude plays exactly what's written in that PDF of the cadenza; no skipped notes or alternate phrase groupings.
McGill's the only one who plays anything different--presumably from another edition or something. But at any rate, the eighth notes are only an octave transfer to get the clarinet line back into the middle register. Moreover, it isn't a modulating cadenza: the previous section ends in Db, and the upcoming section begins in the same key. The eighth notes, therefore, could be just about any pitch (a chromatic scale, for example, or McGill's repeated C natural). There isn't any need to articulate a functional chord at that moment, as there would be at the end of a first movement cadenza in a Mozart or Beethoven piano concerto, by contrast.
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2017-05-23 04:56
I slowed the two videos down in question and you're correct.
I guess at full speed my ear thought the artists were stopping on the ![[Ab4]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/ab4.gif) , not the ![[F4]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/f4.gif) .
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