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 What etude is this? - redux
Author: kdk 
Date:   2014-03-01 20:57
Attachment:  ferling No.14 Op 12.pdf (8k)

I came across this etude (first two measures attached) - #14 in Ferling Op.12 - 18 Etudes for Oboe. I know this as a clarinet etude and can play it nearly from memory (or at least by ear), but so far I haven't been able to find among my clarinet etude books. I think maybe the clarinet version I know is transposed to A minor and starts on low A3.

Can anyone identify it? It's worse than an ear worm - I know it but can't ID it.

Thanks,
Karl

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 Re: What etude is this? - redux
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2014-03-01 18:25

Sure you're not thinking of the last movement of the Brahms Double Concerto?

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 Re: What etude is this? - redux
Author: kdk 
Date:   2014-03-01 18:48

No, it isn't the Brahms Double.

Same style, but not what I'm looking for. :)

Karl

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 Re: What etude is this? - redux
Author: Justin Willsey 2017
Date:   2014-03-01 21:42

It's #15 of Leon Lester's Advancing Clarinetist, it seems. Strangely, Lester lists the original composer as one Sachse, rather than Ferling. Perhaps Ferling grabbed it from a violin etude or something.



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 Re: What etude is this? - redux
Author: kdk 
Date:   2014-03-02 03:49

Justin Willsey wrote:

> It's #15 of Leon Lester's Advancing Clarinetist, it seems.
> Strangely, Lester lists the original composer as one Sachse,
> rather than Ferling. Perhaps Ferling grabbed it from a violin
> etude or something.
>

Yes! Thank you. That was starting to drive me a little nuts. I had been all through my *own* etude materials, but hadn't thought to look at my teaching materials. I use the Lester book as a transition toward Rose from the shorter exercises of the band methods and the Rubank books that students often have with them when they start lessons with me.

Interesting about the attribution. I can't (naturally) find my copy of the Lester book, but doesn't he say on the cover that they're based on studies edited by Sigmund Hering, who was a Philadelphia Orchestra colleague of Lester (played principal trumpet, then later moved down in the section)? If these were based on Hering's trumpet etudes, then I wonder if the Sachse attribution came from Hering.

This gets back to a recent thread about the Rose 32 in which I wondered what the sources of the Ferling Op.31 - 48 etudes for oboe might have been (http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=401400&t=401228)

Karl.



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 Re: What etude is this? - redux
Author: Justin Willsey 2017
Date:   2014-03-02 03:12

Looks like The Progressing Clarinetist is based on Hering, but The Advancing Clarinetist is more of a mixture: Weissenborn, Klose, and others.

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 Re: What etude is this? - redux
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2014-03-02 09:40

Hering probably took the study from one of Ernst Sachse's (1810-1849) studies for trumpet. See Sachse, One Hundred Studies for Trumpet, which is still in print.

Ernst Sachse wrote a Concertino for Trumpet that is still performed today. Youtube offers at least three different performances of it.

For a little bio of Sachse, see http://qpress.ca/node/130.



Post Edited (2014-03-02 09:47)

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