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Author: RonD
Date: 2014-01-03 03:35
Hello,
I seem to be getting a chalumeau overtone when starting clarion notes.
It is very slight, but still audible.
It seems to be two notes up, but in the lower register.
E clarion seems to be more seems to be more prominent, even with stronger attack
Does this make any sense.
Thank You
Ronald
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-01-03 09:00
Some clarinets will have a feint undertone on certain upper register notes - my old Selmers had this on the left hand notes, especially upper register A and Bb. It's easily masked in ensemble and accompanied playing, but can be heard when unaccompanied.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
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Author: William
Date: 2014-01-04 02:05
For me, the culpert was either a loose long key lower joint screw or a loose bell ring.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2014-01-04 07:11
You say "when starting". Do you mean a momentary "grunt" (less than half a second)?
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2014-01-04 13:47
The grunt problem is particularly bad on Buffet R13 A clarinets. It's fixed by making the metal register vent insert slightly shorter. Another cure is to give the vent a wasp-waist contour. Obviously, this is a job for an expert tweaker.
I particularly like Tony Pay's idea that you must be able to make every kind of sound on the clarinet, both to expand your range of expression and to learn to control and avoid the grunt.
Ken Shaw
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Author: RonD
Date: 2014-01-05 17:37
Hello, yes it is a momentary grunt, in fact an undertone.
the thing is, sometimes I get it almost if not without it, it depends what I try and
do with my mouth. Usually, a smaller cavity seems to start those upper clarion
better. I find that it us a lot harder to tongue between those clarion notes
without losing this notes.
Another thing...sometimes I get these and they actually sound good.
And when they do, it seems somewhat effortless; then I will pick up the instrument
1/2 and hour later, same reed, nothing changed, and those notes will not come out
There are a lot of night and day moments in learning the clarinet.
Ronald
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2014-01-06 21:32
When you make a smaller cavity, it's possible your firming up your embouchure and/or increasing the airspeed. Both of those are things that will help to reduce and remove that grunt.
When you're playing upper notes especially, a firm embouchure and wind speed is very important. A slack embouchure can produce that grunt on any note, or even on EVERY note, playing an undertone "scale" all the way through the clarinet. A firm embouchure can actually produce clarion notes without using the register key.
There are a few overtone exercises you search for on this board which entice you to switch between registers of the clarinet WITHOUT using the register key. And if you can manage to start to control the difference between chalemeau and clarion without using the thumb register key, when you DO use it, you'll hit it every time.
Alexi
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