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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2012-06-15 22:17
Just because it is an important word in our tortured existence, this is the correct spelling of the word used to describe the use of facial muscles and the shaping of the lips to the mouthpiece of a woodwind or brass instrument.
Darn French people and their English!
Drew S.
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrewSorensenMusic
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2012-06-15 22:28
How about the chalemeau register? (that spelled right?)
Man these words kill me. Like I don't have a hard enough time with all our musical directions being in latin, then I ran across a piece where everything was in italian and I'm asking the other members of the WWQ what the heck "corno" means (turns out, that means "horn", as in the HORN had those cues in my music).
Nothing like being a non-musically inclined musician and having to admit it to the fellow members of your group. A real DUNCE moment in my career, with more to follow in the future I'm sure.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2012-06-15 22:57
sfalexi wrote:
> How about the chalemeau register? (that spelled right?)
No. Chalumeau.
There is a rule about correcting other people's spelling - you can look it up. I corrected this only because you asked.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2012-06-15 23:22
Thanks Mark. I try to remember not to correct spelling, but I DO appreciate the chalumeau correction. Now I know! Sorry about the last 8 years everyone who has seen chalemeau from me!
US Army Japan Band
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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2012-06-15 23:43
"There is a rule about correcting other people's spelling - you can look it up. I corrected this only because you asked."
I knew this rule, which is why after having to look it up several times myself (as well as seeing others misspell it) I wrote this thread, instead of correcting in the other posts. Of course, non-musical words I could care less if someone spells right, but since we are musicians, it's probably important to know the correct spelling of musical terms.
Drew S.
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Author: FDF
Date: 2012-06-16 00:43
Perhaps, we should all spell the word that shapes our mouths and our tone.
We might form a consensus. Embouchure.
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Author: clarinetguy ★2017
Date: 2012-06-16 00:44
Here's another one--technic or technique? On the solo and ensemble rating sheets in my state, the word used to be spelled "technic." Can anyone explain that? On the newer forms, it's spelled "technique." Once when I was in junior high school, I had recently seen a rating sheet, and I spelled the word "technic" on an English paper. The paper was returned with a red mark, the teacher wondering why the word had been spelled that way.
Here's another interesting one: How do you pronounce "timbre?" In college everyone said "tam-ber," but I noticed in a dictionary that "tim-ber" is also correct.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-06-16 01:01
We always said "Tom'-burr" at our school.
....................Paul Aviles
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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2012-06-16 01:29
Yes, well, timbre would be the correct, and I'm not sure if suggesting "Timber" is meant as a joke, because it's hard to distinguish tone when written, but if not, I think it is meant for the tree, not the sound.
The timbre of timber is trebly tonal. (Just made that up. I really need a life)
I'm sure I'd spell Caesura wrong if asked, among others.
Drew S.
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Author: CarlT
Date: 2012-06-16 02:41
Okay, since we're a bit off the topic of the clarinet, I'll add my 2 cents.
I can stand a wrong spelling now and then (I do my share of it I suppose); however, one of the things that bugs the heck out of me is someone trying to talk properly by saying something like, "between you and I...", or "whomever gets there first...".
I'll hush before Mark throws "I" off the forum.
CarlT
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2012-06-16 15:07
The spelling that always cracks me up is "embrasure" which has, at one of its definitions:
"an opening ... through which missiles may be discharged. "
But I guess the way some people play, that might just be a really good description.
Embouchure, chalumeau, technique... Oh Hell,
why must we have all these hard words to spell?
And what makes it doppio troppo obscene
is having to know what they actually mean.
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Author: Maruja
Date: 2012-06-16 18:19
Back in the old country, we use 's' in practise for the verb - to practise. And 'c' for practice, the noun - a half hour's practice. At least that is how it is supposed to be. It is calqued on 'advice, advise' so (reasonably) easy to remember.
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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2012-06-16 20:55
Maruja beat me to a point, that the English have a different English than Americans. The only thing I can think of right now is the word "Cheque" being a note of payment in the UK, and in the USA it's "Check". I'm sure there's many more. I don't know if any of them are musical. Of course quaver and semi-quaver threw me when I first heard it, 16 years into my musical career.
Drew S.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-06-16 22:40
I don't mind UK vs US spellings, but of course, the UK is more elegant.
What gets me is wannabe slang à la "u" for "you" our "ur" for "your" and the like. I learned to live with "your" vs "you're" (in either direction) and similar sins.
What's interesting is that people can invest five grand in an instrument but not five minutes into learning a near-correct spelling of some difficult words.
Heck, my browser complains when I type emboucher instead of embouchure. That squiggly line isn't their (sic) for nothing. :-)
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Ben
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Author: donald
Date: 2012-06-17 10:41
Ben,
"your" and "you're" are two different words, in English at least...
dn
(ooops, i read your post too fast... or is that two fast... late at night- it's obvious from your post that you understand this, sorry)
Post Edited (2012-06-17 11:33)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-06-17 11:03
donald wrote:
> Ben,
> "your" and "you're" are two different words, in English at least...
I know. It's just that I felt better ever since I started to read in "fault tolerant" mode. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
Bill Bryson's "The Mother Tongue" and the "Dictionary of Troublesome Words" were very helpful books. (Reading rarely hurts)
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Ben
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