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 Loosing embouchre
Author: Koo Young Chung 
Date:   2009-10-21 15:58

Do you notice the difference in your embouchre after a few days of no practice?

I wonder how long can you go without practicing before you notice your embouchre weakened.

Thanks.



Post Edited (2009-10-21 23:58)

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2009-10-21 18:21

About 1 day .... I use double lip and I think that requires even more regular maintenance than single lip.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2009-10-21 18:47

Artur Rubinstein said: "If I don't practice for one day, I notice it. If I don't practice for two days, other pianists notice it. If I don't practice for three days, the whole world notices it."

Of course, Rubinstein was famous for dropping notes, but he was also a great musician. If you're not on his level (and who is?), if you want to make it as a musician, you have to do it every day, even if only for a few minutes.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Rapidcif 
Date:   2009-10-21 18:47

Due to some events, there was this one time i didn't play my instrument for 2 weeks, and it felt REALLY weird playing it again afterwards. So yea, that's my experience.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2009-10-21 18:54

I notice a drop in playing ability when I haven't played in about two days. On that third day, my embouchure doesn't feel right, my tonguing gets a little worse, and it's just not nearly as "comfortable" to play. Feels like I'm working too hard.

Alexi

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Ryan K 
Date:   2009-10-21 20:17

I made the mistake of leaving my double case at the repair shop, as opposed to taking the A home in a single. I had to go 4 days with out playing. On the 4th, I found a junk mouthpieces and did some sirens on it, just to not loose any more. That helped alot.

Ryan Karr
Dickinson College
Carlisle, PA

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: bcl1dso 
Date:   2009-10-21 20:47

I notice a difference after not practicing for one day. Embouchure just doesn't feel as solid, muscles just not quite as strong.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: superson 
Date:   2009-10-21 21:08

i made a mistake of not playing my clarinet for a month in the holidays and now it feels as if everything takes me 10x as much effort as it should do, which now annoys me because i can't get back to how it felt before, definately won't be making that mistake again.

whats embouchure?

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: winthropguy 
Date:   2009-10-21 21:15

Imagine taking 11 years off... besides the embouchure, you lose a lot of muscle memory and have to essentially start over knowing what you're capable of.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: mrn 
Date:   2009-10-21 21:55

Koo Young wrote:

<<Do you notice the diffrence in your embouchre after a few days of no prictice?>>

Not really, but I'm used to having an irregular practice schedule.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2009-10-21 23:03

I've known more than a few musicians (not necessarily clarinetists) who upon returning to their axe after a hiatus will note how much better they sound (or THINK they sound I am afraid).

Don't make THAT mistake. Less practice never equals a better sound.



.................Paul Aviles

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: William 
Date:   2009-10-21 23:24

Contrary view from Tom Ridenour when I was visiting the Kenosha, Leblanc facitily, "I haven't played for over two weeks. No problem, I just find a softer reed." He had just returned from an extended promotional trip two days earlier and was play testing a cartload of Concerto & Opus clarinets to make certain they were up to standards before being shipped out to the dealers. He was making his own reeds on a reedule machine and using a double embouchure with one of his custom mouthpieces--"Legend" series I think....

BTW, for that early 1990's visit, I had a whole cartload of "virgin" Concerto Bb's--at least, 100--to pick from in his Leblanc office. All tweeked by TR. He gave me the freedom to switch bells and barrels until I found a complete clarinet that I liked. It was a daunting experiance that lasted all day. Leon Leblanc--visiting from France--poked his head in and said, "Hi" as did Leblanc owner, Vito P. And Ricardo Morales had been there just the week before. Tom and the Leblanc folks treated me (a relative nobody) like royalty and let me take the clarinet I finally chose with me (rather than having it mailed to our local dealer) to prevent getting lost or damaged in transit. Very nice people, those "Lebancers".

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Koo Young Chung 
Date:   2009-10-22 00:01

Thank you for your responses.

Do you take a clarinet with you when you go on a vacation,say a week?

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: bcl1dso 
Date:   2009-10-22 00:58

Yes. Unless I really have nothing going on for a long time. An hour or even a short productive half hour can really help keep you in shape.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: mrn 
Date:   2009-10-22 03:33

Paul Aviles wrote:

<<Don't make THAT mistake. Less practice never equals a better sound.>>

I agree with that, but I do think there is a law of diminishing returns of sorts when it comes to practice.

I think there does come a point when one's level of mental and physical fatigue begins to impede one's progress to the point that one is better off getting a little rest rather than slopping through things.

Koo Young wrote:

<<Do you take a clarinet with you when you go on a vacation,say a week?>>

I generally do, especially if visiting relatives (who don't mind hearing me play), but I don't always have enough good opportunities to practice when I'm away. I don't know what you do if you're staying in a hotel--I'd be worried about disturbing people.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: USFBassClarinet 
Date:   2009-10-22 04:10

My instruments usually come with me if I go on any vacation longer than a few days. and I have practiced in hotel rooms. no one seems to mind.

Actually, during the hurricanes in florida we had to evacuate and lost power in the hotel we were in. it was like 2 am and I actually have a small crowd of listeners.

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: ShazamaPajama 
Date:   2009-10-22 07:30

i went 2 years without playing. it took me about two months to get my embouchure back to where i was satisfied with my sound.

i think a better question would be, how long does it take to revive an embouchure

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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Brenda 2017
Date:   2009-10-22 11:40

Prompted by a thread about this not too long ago, I decided to use my commuting time to keep up my embouchure. My trip to work is about 50 minutes on a not-too-busy highway. So after having a morning coffee the work out starts. You can still listen to CBC radio while doing this. Hey, you can do this at work if you're on a computer in your own office!

There was a clean but unused business card in my car, so I folded that up several times. The compressed folds makes for perfect resistance as I hold that between the lips for several minutes at a time. It's small enough to be used to strengthen different areas of the embouchure. My right side is the first to leak air, so that's the side that needs more exercise.

Some use cigars, some use old mouthpieces, etc. Looks funny, but would you care? Check out other suggestions in the search.



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 Re: Loosing embouchre
Author: Clarigal 
Date:   2009-10-22 22:17

Cool. I know that I had a time when I could not play. I had a root canal done and after that I could still feel the nerve in my tooth vibrating. So, after about two years, I could still feel vibration but was just able to grimace through playing. Now, I play again and feel so accomplished when I do. I only had private lessons for 3 1/2 years but was playing 8 year pieces. So, I transpose now and use my friend the metronome. :) I think the Clarinet is a beautiful instrument in it's tonal quality.

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