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Author: brwndot
Date: 2007-10-08 02:03
Just curious -- what are some reliable editions of the Second Weber Concerto? The copy I currently have (Cundy-Bettoney) is pretty torn up, and I've never really liked the articulations. I'm assuming the Urtext edition would be a good choice, but are there others? Thanks.
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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-10-08 04:47
Urtext is good, but you have to add in many of your own articulations, etc. (knowing the history, time, perf. practice of the time).
Henle is a great edition - it includes original notation plus Baermann's articulation and cadenza. Two parts. I like this edition-but the edited part seems over edited. Lots of differing articulations during the sections that even Sabine plays all slurred.
Fentone Music/Weston edition - Solo part includes second movement cadenzas by Carl Baermann, Robert Stark, and Cyrille Rose.
Breitkopf - not sure. Probably just the urtext.
I think the Lineau is good, also. Kalmus?
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Author: 2E
Date: 2007-10-08 12:45
I have the Lineau edition which is supposedly the closest thing to Webers manuscript as it was handed down through the Baermanns (who Weber wrote the concertos after/for/whatever). It has all the correct articulations and little turnarounds and everything from the recording I have of it on Naxos (by Ernst Ottensamer if anyone cares.) I'm sure other editions are good too, but the Lineau is good check that out if you can. 2E.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2007-10-08 13:21
I think the Lienau editions are generally Carl Baermann's take on Weber.
They're fascinating historical artifacts, but unless you think Weber was in lockstep with Baermann on performance, they're encrusted with non-Weberian editorial additions.
Here's a link to the Henle edition website. You can read the forward and critical report on the Weber #2 (very nice feature of the Henle webite), which go into detail about the relationship between Weber and the Baermanns: http://www.henle.de/index.cfm?open=08 (Note: you have to enter the search terms to get to the info on the 2nd concerto. Just type: "weber" under Komponist and add "Klarinette und Klavier" from the pull down menu for Intrument)
At least the Henle gives you a choice between Weber's autograph and Baermann's edition.
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2007-10-09 23:29
Some impressions of the Henle: I found the original version (Weber's) version lacking in articulations and ornaments. It would take a lot of work to decide how to play it, it would be like editing it yourself. The Baerman version has too many articulations, ornaments and phrasings. I think a lot of it is in poor taste. I f you already know the piece and are willing to come up with your own version this might be a good edition to have.
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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-10-10 04:29
Using your own knowledge to edit is usually best
I like using the Henle Baermann edition, but doing more slurring than the tonguing added. This gives a nice combination and interpretation.
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Author: brwndot
Date: 2007-10-11 21:49
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm checking out the Fentone/Weston and the Henle right now.
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