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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-08-20 20:37
... then who's 1st symphony is Brahms' 5th?
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Author: Ski
Date: 2007-08-20 20:53
There's no way for me to confirm GBK's answer, cuz I was never very good at math.
BTW, where am I?
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2007-08-20 22:18
If the function f(Beethoven 1) is equivalent to the function g(Haydn 109), and f(Brahms 1) is equivalent to g(Beethoven 10), and f(Mahler 1) is equivalent to g(Brahms 5), then please express the value of [Bruckner 0] in terms of Haydn.
Post Edited (2007-08-20 22:20)
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Author: Caco185
Date: 2007-08-20 22:30
*laughing* very hard
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Author: CPW
Date: 2007-08-21 00:12
Is this headed back to a zeroth point....The BIG BAND theory of musical creation. ?
Or ahead to the nth symphonhy of all composers.?
Hopefully no detours through the Yale University of composition.
Watch out for the monoliths.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
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Author: bahamutofskycon
Date: 2007-08-21 02:39
Not to be a party pooper or anything, but...
IMHO Brahms would have been insulted to know that Mahler was even suggested as his successor. Mahler and Brahms are idealogically and musically opposites for all intents and purposes.
Also, I seem to recall in my research that Brahms wrote a letter imploring Dvorak to take over some conservatory just so Bruckner wouldn't be able to ruin it.
Not that that answers the question though.
Steve Ballas
Post Edited (2007-08-21 02:47)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-08-21 03:10
My Mahler reference was a tongue in cheek answer (a la Brahms magnified to the 10th power).
For the serious answer - Many historians feel that Max Reger is the one composer who carried on the stylists traits of Brahms into the next century...GBK
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Author: bahamutofskycon
Date: 2007-08-21 03:44
GBK - apparently I'm not so good with catching sarcasm
Reger is a good choice.
If I remember correctly, Hindemith was verly influenced by Brahms' compositional techniques. However, he's certainly not a candidate for Brahms No. 5.
Steve Ballas
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2007-08-21 05:05
I say Arnold Schoenberg, who orchestrated Brahms' Piano Quartet in G minor, and turned it into a symphony Brahms would have been proud of.
Mike Blinn
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Author: Ski
Date: 2007-08-21 07:24
Hindemath: is that like (J.S. Bach + late Beethoven - Strauss) = Schoenberg?
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Author: graham
Date: 2007-08-21 16:09
Actually it is Elgar's second. Elgar's first is Wagner's first........
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Author: Musinix
Date: 2007-08-21 17:06
There are three types of people in the world.
One, those that can count, and
two, those that can't count.
Thomas Fiebig
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-08-21 17:43
Hindemath(sic)+ Schoenberg=Anton Webern
Grateful Dead +Arrowsmith=Kiss
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Author: Ski
Date: 2007-08-21 18:03
Alseg,
I think you've worked out the Hindemath correctly for your first mathematical theorem (although you spelled Hindemith incorrectly. I know, doctor's handwriting and all that...).
But I'm not sure about your second theorem. I believe you want to multiply Alice Cooper with Arrowsmith(sp?) and leave the Dead out of the equation.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2007-08-21 18:45
Boston = NYY + 5.0
Atlanta = Philadelphia = NYM - 5.0
All's well in the world.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-08-21 19:11
Kevin wrote:
> Boston = NYY + 5.0
> Atlanta = Philadelphia = NYM - 5.0
Foul! Has to be musical ...
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2007-08-23 04:58
Lets see:
Brahms' Sym.#1 "C"
Brahms' Sym.#2 "D"
Brahms' Sym.#3 "F"
Brahms' Sym.#4 "E"
Therefore his Sym. #5 would have been in "A"
He was using Mozart's popular theme from the "Jupiter Sym." as his basis for his Sym. keys "C", "D", "F", "E", "AAAA"
Too many WICKED's on Broadway (over 1000 performances and way too much time...)
Be well, my friends.
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