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Author: Marshall Jiang
Date: 2007-08-16 02:20
Hello,
My clarinet teacher told me to buy a book named along the lines of Baermann book of scales studies but I didn't find it on the web. I wondering weather it could go by a different name.
Thanks
Marshall
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Author: bahamutofskycon
Date: 2007-08-16 02:41
http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinetmusicmethods.htm They're right at the top.
There are several editions of the Baermann book/part/division 3 which is most likely what your teacher refers to. Langenus is a popular one. Search the archives on this board for more info on the Baermann books. Baermann is all over the place.
Steve Ballas
Post Edited (2007-08-16 02:42)
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-08-16 04:14
The two editions of Baermann 3 that I am familiar with are published by:
1.) Carl Fischer / edited by Gustave Langenus
"Complete Method for Clarinet Op. 63 Third Division"
2.) Southern Music / edited by David Hite
"Foundation Studies From Baermann Book 3, Op. 63"
The Carl Fischer organizes the book by exercises, while the Southern/Hite organizes the book by key. There are also minor difference between the two edition aside from how they are organized. At the end of each scale, an arpeggiation is given. The Fischer extends the arpeggios further than the Hite in some keys. C Major goes up to C7, B Major to B7.
Personally, I think the Hite is easier to work off of due to how it is arranged. Also, there are exercises on a whole tone Scale on E and F, the Chromatic Scale, and Diminished Scale on E,F & Gb.
You can find the Hite through Van Cott, who is a sponser of BBoard. I recently ordered through him and received my order in 2 days.
Post Edited (2007-08-16 04:16)
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-08-16 05:41
I see the two different editions as two different practice methods. Let's say you want to start working on scales. You can either work on all the scales a little bit every day, or work on few scales for a longer time each day, switching scales every day.
So if you decide you want to run through various exercises of all the scales, every day, you could get the Carl Fischer, in which case you can spend a half hour running scales. You'll hit every scale, but will pick up tomorrow on a different variation of the scale (meaning you'll play all scales, but maybe won't get to playing them in fourths or fifths till another day.)
If you want to spend a half hour focusing on just ONE or TWO scales, get the David Hite edition. You can play a half hour of C or F scales (focusing on only two) but be able to do all sorts of variations on them (thirds, fourths, fifths, arpeggios, broken chords, returning scales, etc. etc.)
yeah you can do EITHER method with EITHER book, but if you try mixing methods and books, it'll involve a lot of page-turning inbetween exercises.
Hope I've made my opinions on how to choose a book clear as mud for you.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-08-16 17:02
Quote:
Yeah you can do EITHER method with EITHER book, but if you try mixing methods and books, it'll involve a lot of page-turning inbetween exercises.
I believe it was David Hattner who said in a recent masterclass that its a good idea to own both Baermann books; the Fischer to run your scales and then the Hite to concentrate on a Major/Minor key to run all the patterns.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2007-08-16 19:08
The Galper is yet a 3rd version of it - different than the other two. The Scales start on the upbeat which helps with the "direction" of the phrasing. Also, it's a LOT easier to read as it's eight notes in cut time. I find the other 2 versions to be really crowded to read.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Marshall Jiang
Date: 2007-08-17 02:30
Thanks for the quick response!!! I'll be probably getting the Hite as I need to clean up the harder scales (F#, Db etc.) Talking about scales reminded me of a fingering question, I am trying to do my Ab scale 3 octaves and my high Ab (over-blown Eb) is really weak, and I'm seeing what fingerings other better clarinet players use. I currently use the register with thumb, 3rd and 4th finger of left hand and middle finger of right hand.
Thanks!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-08-17 02:56
Marshall Jiang wrote:
> I currently use the register with thumb,
> 3rd and 4th finger of left hand and middle finger of right
> hand.
There are more than 20 ways to play Ab6. The fingering you have chosen is not one of them ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
A good basic fingering to become familiar with is:
TR oxx / xox F#/C#
to make the pitch of that fingering slightly lower, add the middle finger of the RH:
TR oxx / xxx F#/C#
For an Ab arpeggio use:
TR ooo / xoo Ab/Eb
There are many other Ab6 fingerings to learn. Get a good fingering text and find a few others which respond well and tune accurately with your particular set up...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-08-17 03:35
grifffinity wrote:
> The Carl Fischer organizes the book by exercises, while the
> Southern/Hite organizes the book by key. There are also
> minor difference between the two edition aside from
> how they are organized. At the end of each scale,
> an arpeggiation is given. The Fischer extends the
> arpeggios further than the Hite in some keys.
> C Major goes up to C7, B Major to B7.
> Personally, I think the Hite is easier to work off of
> due to how it is arranged. Also, there are exercises
> on a whole tone Scale on E and F, the Chromatic Scale,
> and Diminished Scale on E,F & Gb.
The Hite edition is excellent and as mentioned above is organized logically by key.
However - the one fault with the Hite book is that he did not include the Diverse Chords which are included in the Carl Fischer edition on pages 30 and 31. These are important exercises to learn chord patterns and encourage students to find and use the correct fingerings in arpeggios ...GBK
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