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 Re: American Sound
Author: ElVizconde 
Date:   2007-01-09 16:13

I know I was generalizing, Thing that I don't do "in general". I was just trying to make my point.
I have a Vinyl of Mack playing Mozart string quartet (He has the most beautiful sound I have ever heard in an North American oboe player) but I find his interpretation a little cold (he doesn't take risks). I have Still playing Poulenc, Strauss and his sound is nothing but bright and thin, not dark and big like someone suggested in this thread (I am just talking about the sound not his interpretation, which I find beautiful).

quoting Cjwright "The deLancie "noise" is what others consider an extra "ring" around his tight, pure "core' of sound. Some hate it, other's like me love it. Whether it's great or not is beside the point, but it was part of his sound, and of all of Tabuteau's students, it was perhaps de Lancie who was considered the direct "Philadelphia purist" in the lineage of Tabuteau."

Well, I am one of those who dislike that "noise" the sound projects indeed but it actually hurts when you are close to an oboe player and that is annoying.

Someone in this thread suggested that French and German oboe players now sound more alike because of the influence of Tabuteau, I think that is totally incorrect, the fact is that all these European countries are in permanent exchange of experiences, they travel around Europe and that is making hard sometimes to classify an oboe player from a specific school, a German can sound more French and a French more German.
This situation is different in the USA and Canada, these two countries are big, huge and isolated form the rest of the word (you just need to watch TV, specially the news to see that), that;s why the style remains more"pure" in terms of foreign influences.

My point is that I have heard comments coming from oboe players from the USA about the European sound, specially French and German and lot of them think that they still sound bright and nasal (French) when in fact the sound has changed drastically in the last 20 years, they have evolved thing that is not too obvious in the American style, which now sound brighter, narrower and more nasal than the French counterpart. That's all I tried to say.

I am from Latin-America, so I have the advantage to see everything from outside, I have had teachers from USA and Europe as well, I didn't grew up under the domination of an American or European school (we have to learn from everybody because we don't have the advantage that other countries in Europe or Northa America have, we don;'t have the money, support or resources, so we need to learn from the first oboe player that comes to our countries).. It is just a point of view but it is actually shared with a lot of oboe players in LA, I think we feel more attracted to Europe than USA when we talk about the oboe playing.

Once again, I am just talking about the "sound" not the interpreation.

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